Rumors: New Nikon Z9 Firmware Update With Enhanced AF Acquisition Coming Soon (or not 🙂)

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Now coming up to December 2024. Am I the only Nikon Z9 user who is still bemoaning the lack of Pixel Shift? I find it very difficult to believe that Nikon will not be bringing this to the Z9. It is there on the ZF, Z6-111and Z8. I am really feeling very abandoned by Nikon. Have I missed any important Nikon announcements on this issue?
Seriously, how can you feel abandoned when Nikon never made any promise to pixel shift?
It sure would be nice to get it and might be released next week Tuesday but maybe not.
The curse of believing rumours and speculations. Some might happen, others do not.
 
The problem is that rumours earlier have stated all sorts of things, I don't feel abandoned at all and its entirely possible that some of the features that people believe may come to a Z9 might actually be for its replacement for nothing other than commercial reasons.

Unfortunately rumour, speculation have all fuelled a fire that we wouldn't know about without rumour sites.

But I am sure that many of the ambassadors, reviewers and long term YouTubers will have had access to something over the past few months and we can only wait it out and see what, if anything, is published over the next few weeks.
The problem is that rumours earlier have stated all sorts of things, I don't feel abandoned at all and its entirely possible that some of the features that people believe may come to a Z9 might actually be for its replacement for nothing other than commercial reasons.

Unfortunately rumour, speculation have all fuelled a fire that we wouldn't know about without rumour sites.

But I am sure that many of the ambassadors, reviewers and long term YouTubers will have had access to something over the past few months and we can only wait it out and see what, if anything, is published over the next few weeks.
Yes of course what you are saying is quite right and I do have to be realistic and concede that Pixel Shift may not come to the Z9. I also do landscape photography and I recently borrowed a Z8 and played with Pixel Shift and got into some very interesting results. Pixel Shift is something I want to dabble with but I do not want to have to purchase a Z8 in order to achieve it. ........I'm selfish....other Z cameras have it, so why not the Z9? I want. I want.....I want...!
 
In all fairness, not having a feature in the flagship is a really odd (and poor, imo) choice by nikon. I get that sony doesn't care and does whatever it wants, but I'd prefer not to follow that business model when it comes up to upgrades/updates.
 
In all fairness, not having a feature in the flagship is a really odd (and poor, imo) choice by nikon. I get that sony doesn't care and does whatever it wants, but I'd prefer not to follow that business model when it comes up to upgrades/updates.
I have JUST heard that Nikon Z9 firmware update 5.1 is imminent........I will not be holding my breath for too long!!!..
It is only a small update over v5.00 so I am not going to assume that Pixel Shift will be included. Still ... I live in hopes...and with fingers crossed 🤞
 
I've only seen rumors of 5.1 as well, though I believe there's an update with the powerzoom stuff upcoming. I also don't know when I'd use pixel shift, but that's just a generic gripe on my part (if you're going to have a flagship, it should also have all the features first, if not really quick after they come out).
 
I have JUST heard that Nikon Z9 firmware update 5.1 is imminent........I will not be holding my breath for too long!!!..
It is only a small update over v5.00 so I am not going to assume that Pixel Shift will be included. Still ... I live in hopes...and with fingers crossed 🤞
You mean another rumour 🙄 for all any of us know 5.10 is a development update, which was stated in the YT video from Japan.

Nikon have done a fantastic job with FW on the Expeed 7 series cameras, and it’s clear that they also know how much end users value updates, this is in contrast to other camera makers, and makes Nikon stand out as a brand. But a time comes when Nikon need to move on, especially if a new flagship is due late 25 early 26, i would imagine FW is not cheap or quick to develop, test and release.

Pixel Shift - I have mixed views on it, I haven’t found a use for it, even with landscapes. But it could be because I haven’t take the time to use it, and then use it properly.

Either way, my cameras help me enjoy the landscape and the wildlife in it, as much as I’ll always want more in firmware, I haven’t found any real issues with my Z9 or Z8 as they are.

Edit: Just thinking about Pre Capture RAW, I think the reason why we haven't seen it, is largely because to achieve it; I think the vast majority of the code would need to be re-written, why do that on a camera that is now 2 plus years old. If you plan it now you can work that into any new firmware for a future body.
 
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I saw some French IG jumped the gun and announced Z9 FW5.1 Should be official very soon now :)

ps: Don’t shoot me if it’s a hoax!
 

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I'll throw my rumor theory into the ring :sneaky:

Nikon is holding back the Z9 firmware until Canon & Sony both announce/ship their new flagships so as to steal some of the hype and convince the weak-willed not to jump ship. Guessing we'll see the FW after Nov 20 and before Christmas, and if we're lucky, before Black Friday/Cyber Monday... so next week.

Z8 will get nearly the same updates, but will NOT get RAW PreCapture due to heat management of the smaller body, whereas the Z9 is built for it. Potentially the Z8 will get PC in HE or HE*, but at the same time I don't believe Nikon will do a half-baked solution. Sorry, Z8 owners, but at least it'll get AF improvements though!

Going forward, I feel they'll begin to differentiate the lines more: Z9 II will drop to 24mpx, get GS and the top-tier AF so as to compete with the other flagships, while the Z8 II will stay in the 45mpx realm with the standard ES implementation we see now, but will be a smidge behind the Z9 II in terms of overall performance (AF, FPS, etc)

Or, Nikon stands pat, lets S and C pull further ahead, and then shocks the world next year with all new bodies with these features.
Checking back in with my old self here to see what I whiffed on: everything :ROFLMAO:

Revised prediction: at this stage in the game the Z8/9 will probably get some minor new FW that improves AF a little, but little else. Next bodies will get all the good stuff, it'll be the carrot Nikon dangles in order for us to upgrade. It's all good, I'm totally happy with my Z8 as it is, anything else beyond is icing on the cake.
 
Not sure about anyone else, but I'd put that into the "little else" category, it's not something I personally feel will improve the camera or the photo taking experience. That's just me though, others may be excited for this feature.
Nikons track record of maintaining cloud things is poor, lets face it Snapbridge is a pig of an application. Nikon Cloud while useful for some has very limited application, and people ask for it, simple because they dont have it, not because they need it.
 
I wouldn't put it past Nikon to add a few more features and improvements to the Z8... It's not that old of a camera release . Now, if we were talking Sony.. well, forget about added FW features . Sonys track record is deliver the new features in the form of a new Body :) that and delivering buggy firmware updates ( 2.0 blew away the network features of my previous A1 which was later fixed by a follow up firmware ). And then the AF regression.. my A1 AF became worse with later firmware updates. It was never the same camera , and unfortunately no way to revert to previous firmwares with Sony. So I think Nikon users have it pretty good in comparison
 
Checking back in with my old self here to see what I whiffed on: everything :ROFLMAO:

Revised prediction: at this stage in the game the Z8/9 will probably get some minor new FW that improves AF a little, but little else. Next bodies will get all the good stuff, it'll be the carrot Nikon dangles in order for us to upgrade. It's all good, I'm totally happy with my Z8 as it is, anything else beyond is icing on the cake.
I would be happy with whatever improvements they make wrt AF, only two other items I would like to have is RAW precapture, even 10fps will suffice, as well as MF eye-detect, like what I have on the Zf and Z50ii.

I do use the 75 1.5 and 50 1.0 Voigtlander MF lenses a lot, especially with the 50 F1, it is an important must-have for me.
 
I would be happy with whatever improvements they make wrt AF, only two other items I would like to have is RAW precapture, even 10fps will suffice, as well as MF eye-detect, like what I have on the Zf and Z50ii.

I do use the 75 1.5 and 50 1.0 Voigtlander MF lenses a lot, especially with the 50 F1, it is an important must-have for me.
I really want that 50 1.0 for my Zf. It seems like the perfect pair.
 
I really want that 50 1.0 for my Zf. It seems like the perfect pair.
I can highly recommend it, Lee, a wonderful optic. If you find it a bit big, the other one I use, is the dual—character 40 f1.2, wide-open it has classical rendering, stop down to >f2.8 and it renders like modern z-glass. It is actually my preferred street-photography lens, light, easy to use, and a gem, paired with the Zf.

The 50 F1 though is an excellent portrait lens, especially black&white animal portraits. Whichever you get, you will be happy with it, I am sure. I do also have the 75 1.5, let‘s not go there at this point, don't want to get you into to much trouble :)
 
I can highly recommend it, Lee, a wonderful optic. If you find it a bit big, the other one I use, is the dual—character 40 f1.2, wide-open it has classical rendering, stop down to >f2.8 and it renders like modern z-glass. It is actually my preferred street-photography lens, light, easy to use, and a gem, paired with the Zf.

The 50 F1 though is an excellent portrait lens, especially black&white animal portraits. Whichever you get, you will be happy with it, I am sure. I do also have the 75 1.5, let‘s not go there at this point, don't want to get you into to much trouble :)
Between you and the Nikon sale going on my savings is going to take a hit. I've seen a little about the 40 1.2, that rendering sort of sounds like the 50mm 1.2 AI-S that I own where it's soft and ethereal at 1.2 then sharpens up pretty quick from F2.8 on. I used that lens at a wedding this summer and it was actually those images that the couple liked the most.
 
Between you and the Nikon sale going on my savings is going to take a hit. I've seen a little about the 40 1.2, that rendering sort of sounds like the 50mm 1.2 AI-S that I own where it's soft and ethereal at 1.2 then sharpens up pretty quick from F2.8 on. I used that lens at a wedding this summer and it was actually those images that the couple liked the most.
Exactly, if I could only ever pick one lens, that will be it, most likely paired with the wonderful Zf body. I really enjoy it, and the price is far more palatable vs the 50 f1. Let me know how you like it if you get it!

It’s not as soft as the old 50 Ai-S 1.2 wide open, but it does have a wonderful character. Below a shot of my Milla wide-open. SOOC out of the Zf, resized to upload here.

Apologies for going way off-topic @OP, I just got excited!

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I wouldn't put it past Nikon to add a few more features and improvements to the Z8... It's not that old of a camera release . Now, if we were talking Sony.. well, forget about added FW features . Sonys track record is deliver the new features in the form of a new Body :) that and delivering buggy firmware updates ( 2.0 blew away the network features of my previous A1 which was later fixed by a follow up firmware ). And then the AF regression.. my A1 AF became worse with later firmware updates. It was never the same camera , and unfortunately no way to revert to previous firmwares with Sony. So I think Nikon users have it pretty good in comparison
They just added focus bracketing to the A1 even after the A1II is released.
They have added things like Animal AF via FW in the past. They have added entirely new Real Time Tracking AF system via FW.
As for AF, 1.20 may have been better but since then I haven't noticed any further regressions. If I could find a camera on 1.20 I'd love to test it to see if we are all really remembering correctly. Somehow, I don't think it would turn out to be as good as people think they remember it to be??

If you want a lack of FW features you buy a Canon.
 
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