nmerc_photos
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the OP asked for the entire Z mount lineup to have it. no manufacturer has that.
yes, some manufacturers have specific lenses with an integrated foot - but none make it universal on an entire line up
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the OP asked for the entire Z mount lineup to have it. no manufacturer has that.
yes, some manufacturers have specific lenses with an integrated foot - but none make it universal on an entire line up
Olympus/OM System does.
Woody Meristem
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Olympus has an ARCA-Swiss dovetail on the foot of all four of its long telephotos 300mm, 100-400mm, 150-400mm and 150-600mm. While Olympus isn't one of the "Big 3", it has historically been the most innovative manufacturer.
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Until the Arca foot is standard issue, improvisation saves the day. Here’s the Nikon (or substitute Canon, Sony, etc..) lens foot with the least expensive Arca substitute, the Benro PL100. I swap this foot between lenses that I might use on the gimbal rail. The Manfrotto base is easy on, easy off on camera lens or body when monopod or ball head is needed….
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FWIW, I've had very good luck with Desmond lens plates at a fraction of the cost of some of the other brands. They fit my RRS Arca Swiss clamps very nicely and are well machined.
Alistair
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Very few video heads ( are there any?) use ARCA swiss. Please Nikon don't follow Tamron's Arca Swiss foot, the 150-500 has the worst foot of any lens I own. Please continue to give us large flat feet with sufficient space to bolt on the plate that suits our head and gives plenty of length to balance the rig.
fcotterill
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Arcaswiss is not an engineering standard, although at least three N American 3rd party manufacturers follow a set of Arcaswiss specifications for their photographic accessories, namely lens plates, feet etc. Two are Acratech and RSS, whose products are practicably unavailable outside the USA.
Chinese brands including Leofoto and Sirui each have their own differences at the critical end of their lens plates - the dovetail. Assuming the primary Japanese companies were to adopt AS plates they would have to standardize on one set of the dimensions.
I found it's simpler to standardize on the long PH180 Sirui lens plates and buy high quality 1/4" and 2/3" UNC capscrews (marine grade 316 stainless) - plus loktite to attach the OEM lens foot. These will work for years on any telephoto, and the longer foot is a robust carry handle, unlike the shorter overpriced AS 3rd party lens foot ( bespoke to one telephoto typically).
A web-archived blog post on the Jobu website elaborates on this subject.
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Chinese brands including Leofoto and Sirui each have their own differences at the critical end of their lens plates - the dovetail. Assuming the primary Japanese companies were to adopt AS plates they would have to standardize on one set of the dimensions.
I found it's simpler to standardize on the long PH180 Sirui lens plates and buy high quality 1/4" and 2/3" UNC capscrews (marine grade 316 stainless) - plus loktite to attach the OEM lens foot. These will work for years on any telephoto, and the longer foot is a robust carry handle, unlike the shorter overpriced AS 3rd party lens foot ( bespoke to one telephoto typically).
A web-archived blog post on the Jobu website elaborates on this subject.
Why Arca Swiss?
I currently have one manfrotto "heavy" and a carbon travel tripod along with a monopod that I purchased some time ago. I rarely use the heavy tripod and each of them have a single column in the middle. I keep a Manfrotto style plate on the camera but don't keep them on my lenses. I am...
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Could you tell me why "large flat feet" can't have an Arca Swiss dovetail above.
I agree with you, but then I also think car manufacturers should provide full-sized spares, airlines free checked bags, national parks no fee entry, and all cafes bottomless cups of coffee.
geoawelch
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OM Systems 150-400‘s lens foot has Arca Swiss Compatibility built in
They dont build in a dovetail for the same reason they dont build one into their camera bodies....
The ACTUAL industry standard for mounting cameras and lenses is the 1/4-20 threaded hole.
The ACTUAL industry standard for mounting cameras and lenses is the 1/4-20 threaded hole.
Alistair
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Other mounting systems are more common.
Edit: Wes expresses it far better than me in his post above.
True…but I see no good reason why. AFAIK there isn’t any license fee required but it is likely minimal at best and the feet re machined anyway so there no cost to just machining the Arca edge instead of rounded. Lenses with feet are all telephotos and I think the use of Arca tripod clamps for long lens shooters is almost universal from what I’ve seen but there are also thresed holes if one wants to go another way…hence other than “it’s always been that way” there’s no good reason not to.
Cameron T
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I agree, but none of the big three agree. So here we are.
StefanSC
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Add the OMDS 100-400 and 150-600mm to that list.
Yep.
CTaylor
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And to add to that... Why don't all plates, l-brackets and feet come with a QD socket?
I like this idea to have an Arca Swiss lens foot too. However, I also am quite happy to support Nikon to add $100 on top of the current prices too. It is only fair, yes?
No such thing as a free lunch, unfortunately!
No such thing as a free lunch, unfortunately!
Most if not all of the new Olympus/OM Systems come with the Arca-Swiss dovetail plate. I think the 40-150 f/2.8 PRO didn't come with an Arca-Swiss late but there is a third party tripod collar/foot that has the Arca-Swiss.
Parfumeur
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Extra weight??
Parfumeur
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I find with a long lens, a longer ~115mm plate helps with the 'carry' part of the lens. Easier to move from location to location while using the foot / Arca combo as a handle.Your sentiments resonate with me. This is the least expensive option I could find which is made by Benro. Even so, It costs $47 2 years ago and only came w/1 stirrup screw. I had to complain to Adorama and talk to a representative to get the second screw.….ooops, have some candy
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See: Desmond DPL-115 Long Lens Quick Release Plate (115mm) $13. It's only a piece of metal not a $$$ engineering feat! Try B&H
The exttra lenght also adds space for bigger hands and knuckles!
Parfumeur
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Tamron? Arca is French/Swiss. They had the original design, in the public domain. Yes, 50's
But they do come with a threaded mount, don't they? However, your viewpoint is absolutely valid.
I'm under the impression that the members of this forum, and others like it, are outliers in the camera-mount world. Most people who use camera mounts, such as tripods and monopods, are very content with the provided threaded mounts. Place that on top of that most people don't even use a camera mount; that if they need camera stabilization, they just use any support that is available.
I do wish that the lens mounts for Nikon's, and other manufacturer's, telefoto lenses had the ARCA-SWISS channels. I also understand that my wishes might not shared by the great majority of these lens' users, and that adding them would add cost to the lenses. Cost that would be a disadvantage to some consumers, and therefore, not beneficial to Nikon, and the other camera and lens companies.
Until they start providing them, the third-party replacement foot providers will have a market for their products.
That would require Nikon pay for the license or at the very least provide Tamron something in trade.
Parfumeur
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There is also, albeit small, of the length of the foot. I prefer the longer length ~115mm so as to get my whole hand and the added space between the foot and the lens body, only USD 13 : Desmond DPL-115 Long Lens Quick Release Plate (115mm) Desmond has all sizes,