Who’s buying the Sony a1MK2?

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Are you buying the Sony a1MK2


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The 300 GM with a tc is approx. $6500 compared to $4200 for the 600 PF and $3000 for the 400 f4.5. I have not shot any of these lenses but I would hope that for $3000 more the 300 gm + tc would perform better.
I currently have the 300mm and shoot it with both TCs - prior to that I had the Z 600TC, Z400TC and 600PF (didn't have the 400mm 4.5). The biggest difference between the 300GM and 600PF is the bokeh. In harsh light the PF element makes it look really busy and not attractive at all. In decent, great light and anything in-between then you would be hard pressed to see any real differences between the 2 lenses.
 
I just took delivery of the A1 Mark 2. My Sony Pro dealer says that a very limited nr of these cameras will be delivered. Pleased I was top of the list .
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Throwing in my2 cents - although the A1ii which has nice upgrades at $6,500 it's overpriced given the market has changed since the A1 launched. It should have been priced at $5k at most. Especially when you consider the Z9 is $5,500 and the R5ii is $4,300. I have the a9iii and really like the body, AF and the colors out of the camera--which are a lot better than any other Sony. It looks like the A1ii inherited those things but what I can’t get over is the price. For me I would want to add the grip so now you’re talking about $6,900 which is just stupid.
Well comparing price of one brand vs another is only valid for someone just starting. However often when comparing a fresh start bodies and glass Nikon for example is more expensive and so is Canon vs Sony if you want the big primes.
It’s also not about price when you look at design language. Sony has focused on smaller and lighter for bodies and lenses. The other two haven’t. It comes down to what you want.
With that all being said I have chosen Sony and have all the big glass 300,400,600 etc. the price of the body doesn’t matter. Just because the new a1 is more than say a Nikon I could care less. The Sony is still more customizable and still does more in raw than anyone else. I also have the a9III which not even the R1 can do what it can do.
 
Well comparing price of one brand vs another is only valid for someone just starting. However often when comparing a fresh start bodies and glass Nikon for example is more expensive and so is Canon vs Sony if you want the big primes.
It’s also not about price when you look at design language. Sony has focused on smaller and lighter for bodies and lenses. The other two haven’t. It comes down to what you want.
With that all being said I have chosen Sony and have all the big glass 300,400,600 etc. the price of the body doesn’t matter. Just because the new a1 is more than say a Nikon I could care less. The Sony is still more customizable and still does more in raw than anyone else. I also have the a9III which not even the R1 can do what it can do.
When you throw the exotic primes in the mix the thousand/few thousand on the body really is not much of a concern overall if you're dropping that much cash. If it's 30-50k your spending then whats 1-2k difference on the body.

It's much bigger if it's someone looking for a 200-600 or 180-600, 200-800 and a body. Then the Nikon/Canon Z8 and R5ii start to make a lot more sense vs the A1ii. That customer probably never intends to buy the 10k+ lenses and maybe would buy a 600 PF or 800 PF max.
 
When you throw the exotic primes in the mix the thousand/few thousand on the body really is not much of a concern overall if you're dropping that much cash. If it's 30-50k your spending then whats 1-2k difference on the body.

It's much bigger if it's someone looking for a 200-600 or 180-600, 200-800 and a body. Then the Nikon/Canon Z8 and R5ii start to make a lot more sense vs the A1ii. That customer probably never intends to buy the 10k+ lenses and maybe would buy a 600 PF or 800 PF max.
Sure but Sony has several lower cost options including the original a1 that offer lower cost options that in many ways are still more capable.
 
Sure but Sony has several lower cost options including the original a1 that offer lower cost options that in many ways are still more capable.

Outside of the bleeding edge cameras Sony's lower end is not as competitive right now. For video they lost the lead all the way from top to bottom as well.

There's Z6iii Z8 and R5ii R6ii in that price range that is much more attractive than A74 and A7R5 and used A1's are still used. The A7Cii is interesting and seems to be selling well but for action/wildlife all of those are worse choices than the Canon/Nikon options.

Sony really needs a A75 as the R6ii and soon to be iii and Z6iii have left the A74 behind.
 
Outside of the bleeding edge cameras Sony's lower end is not as competitive right now. For video they lost the lead all the way from top to bottom as well.

There's Z6iii Z8 and R5ii R6ii in that price range that is much more attractive than A74 and A7R5 and used A1's are still used. The A7Cii is interesting and seems to be selling well but for action/wildlife all of those are worse choices than the Canon/Nikon options.

Sony really needs a A75 as the R6ii and soon to be iii and Z6iii have left the A74 behind.
I am curious to see what they do with the A7V for sure. I don’t need high frame rate but would sorta like pre capture. Not sure if it will be added but the rumored specs are nice
 
Outside of the bleeding edge cameras Sony's lower end is not as competitive right now. For video they lost the lead all the way from top to bottom as well.

There's Z6iii Z8 and R5ii R6ii in that price range that is much more attractive than A74 and A7R5 and used A1's are still used. The A7Cii is interesting and seems to be selling well but for action/wildlife all of those are worse choices than the Canon/Nikon options.

Sony really needs a A75 as the R6ii and soon to be iii and Z6iii have left the A74 behind.
They will continue to sell the a1 which is now $1k cheaper. That closes the gap and the a1 is more capable and customizable then any of the cameras you mentioned. If you want to continue to compare lower MP cameras than add the a9II into the mix which smokes all of those in the same MP range you mentioned. The a9II is sold new for $4,498 and used is roughly half of that.
We can continue to do comparisons but unless you are new or leaving DSLR and not wanting to adapt older lenses then all of this discussion over pricing is pointless. You aren’t leaving your brand no matter what Sony announces and I’m not leaving Sony no matter what anyone else announces. Once you become invested there wont be any tech leap that would warrant a loss and the significant investment it would take to replace my gear.
 
They will continue to sell the a1 which is now $1k cheaper. That closes the gap and the a1 is more capable and customizable then any of the cameras you mentioned. If you want to continue to compare lower MP cameras than add the a9II into the mix which smokes all of those in the same MP range you mentioned. The a9II is sold new for $4,498 and used is roughly half of that.
We can continue to do comparisons but unless you are new or leaving DSLR and not wanting to adapt older lenses then all of this discussion over pricing is pointless. You aren’t leaving your brand no matter what Sony announces and I’m not leaving Sony no matter what anyone else announces. Once you become invested there wont be any tech leap that would warrant a loss and the significant investment it would take to replace my gear.
Nobody’s switching brands this would purely be someone jumping in fresh. Honestly the differences in these three are way smaller than the internet blows up for capability’s and any competent photographer is going to get great results with any of them.

I don’t think the A1 is outperforming the R5ii though nor any other Sony offering in that price range. Both shoot 30 FPS raw Canon has precapture RAW and better AF than the A1 in the R5ii currently.

Nikon is offering better video performance and a better lens lineup with slightly reduced frame rate and a small difference in AF which matters greatly to some and not at all to others.

Sony imo doesn’t have a clear advantage they had in the past years currently. But nobody is going to drop a brand because the brand you in will shortly be on top again if you wait a little while. There’s a very high probability Nikon will top the A1ii within a year or two as the Z9 is last in the refresh cycle.
 
I am curious to see what they do with the A7V for sure. I don’t need high frame rate but would sorta like pre capture. Not sure if it will be added but the rumored specs are nice
The A75 could hit a really nice sweet spot of less expensive than the Z8 with a great feature set. It has potential to be a real winner for an option.
 
Really proves that Sony did zero development work for the A1mkii and only added parts from other cameras they could bring over easily. Nothing objectionable in itself, but then it should have happened a year ago, all the parts already existed, and it would have been better received if the “rush” was justified by the Olympics. Now it’s too little, too late, too expensive 😡 You can get away with one of the three, you may even get forgiven for two of the three when you have a solid track record, but all 3 is not a recipe for success.
How can you say it's "too expensive"? It's priced the same as the A1 but yet gives you much more camera. And of course there are people out there who don't have an A1 but may be looking to step up to the flagship body so for them it's a brand new experience.
 
Nobody’s switching brands this would purely be someone jumping in fresh. Honestly the differences in these three are way smaller than the internet blows up for capability’s and any competent photographer is going to get great results with any of them.

I don’t think the A1 is outperforming the R5ii though nor any other Sony offering in that price range. Both shoot 30 FPS raw Canon has precapture RAW and better AF than the A1 in the R5ii currently.

Nikon is offering better video performance and a better lens lineup with slightly reduced frame rate and a small difference in AF which matters greatly to some and not at all to others.

Sony imo doesn’t have a clear advantage they had in the past years currently. But nobody is going to drop a brand because the brand you in will shortly be on top again if you wait a little while. There’s a very high probability Nikon will top the A1ii within a year or two as the Z9 is last in the refresh cycle.
Well better af is highly subjective. No matter the brand knowing how to set up the af system especially on a Sony that gives you so much customization is important. It’s also important to use like lenses and at the exact same time. Sorry some reviewer or YouTuber who get minutes to a couple days with an advanced camera like this don’t invest the time nor are typically in situations that truly highlight a cameras af system and have others with same glass at the same moment. Jan over is Australia is about the only one who really spends a lot of time with all 3 systems but even he hasn’t had an a1mk2 long enough to really try out different af settings in different situations. None of these cameras are a set it and forget it af system if you truly want the best they can do.

Precapture Canon didn’t give you the options Sony does. Canon takes a special battery no one can find, Canon still has rolling shutter issues at times, Canon nor Nikon are as customizable as Sony. Not even close on that one! Sony is still lighter and the new a1 and a9III are subjectively the most comfortable cameras in the hand ever made. I’ve shot Canon and Nikon since the 80’s and by far my a9III is the best ergonomically.

Anyone saying best is very subjective. Even my comments are but I own that and while some tech gaps have been shortened the a1 in either version still has specs and capabilities no one else has. Could that change? Sure but Sony will continue to evolve. Who else has a global shutter in a mirrorless camera?
 
I'm considering delaying my purchase to into the new year.
Camera only releasing Dec 20th...I wont' be able to receive it from the 22nd onwards so would be risky to have it shipped in that short of a time period.
I'm checking with my dealer if he will cover overnight air courier. Ideally shipping out on the 19th to arrive to me on the 20th which shouldn't break any embargo date for actual delivery.
But if that doesn't work out then I'll delay into January and hopefully be able to get a 5-10% discount once my dealer has them in stock and has fulfilled pre-orders.
I have two friends that also had it pre-ordered. One has cancelled and will purchase into the new year once a discount can be had and he has more interesting subjects to shoot. The other is on the fence if he will go through with the order on release date.
So out of three orders I know about, all three are close to backing out on release date. I wonder how common that will be? My sample could be biased as all three of us stand to save some money if we delay a month or two and all three of us don't have anything too interesting to shoot the next few months.
 
I'm considering delaying my purchase to into the new year.
Camera only releasing Dec 20th...I wont' be able to receive it from the 22nd onwards so would be risky to have it shipped in that short of a time period.
I'm checking with my dealer if he will cover overnight air courier. Ideally shipping out on the 19th to arrive to me on the 20th which shouldn't break any embargo date for actual delivery.
But if that doesn't work out then I'll delay into January and hopefully be able to get a 5-10% discount once my dealer has them in stock and has fulfilled pre-orders.
I have two friends that also had it pre-ordered. One has cancelled and will purchase into the new year once a discount can be had and he has more interesting subjects to shoot. The other is on the fence if he will go through with the order on release date.
So out of three orders I know about, all three are close to backing out on release date. I wonder how common that will be? My sample could be biased as all three of us stand to save some money if we delay a month or two and all three of us don't have anything too interesting to shoot the next few months.
I will be delaying my Christmas travel if B&H ships me on release date :). I’m not backing out but waiting until spring to buy a second one.
 
A dealer I frequently deal with in the Midwest is telling me the pre orders have been pretty slow and doesn't anticipate there being an issue for anyone to get one. Any information I have gotten in the past from this person has typically been spot on.
I sure hope that’s true! First a1 I got opening day and had a 300’s serial number. I was also able to get a second one about 6 months later. I hope to get one asap and likely add a second one right before my season picks up.
 
I sure hope that’s true! First a1 I got opening day and had a 300’s serial number. I was also able to get a second one about 6 months later. I hope to get one asap and likely add a second one right before my season picks up.
This person thought it being close to the holidays, travel and such being the biggest reason, which makes sense. I sure wouldn't want to risk missing a delivery for a $6500 camera that was left on the porch :ROFLMAO:
 
This person thought it being close to the holidays, travel and such being the biggest reason, which makes sense. I sure wouldn't want to risk missing a delivery for a $6500 camera that was left on the porch :ROFLMAO:
Dido! That’s why we will wait to leave if we need to lol. Trying to figure out where to go in January to test drive it. Not much around here right now. I was thinking Conowingo if I want to freeze, Florida maybe for Ospreys or go to New Mexico which I haven’t done yet.
 
I had UPS leave a $5500 Imac on my front porch that was supposed to be signed for and I was over an hour from home lol.
I actually had UPS leave a $22k Krieghoff K80 at my front door with no signature. Luckily I was home I was shitting myself when I got the delivery notification.
 
I actually had UPS leave a $22k Krieghoff K80 at my front door with no signature. Luckily I was home I was shitting myself when I got the delivery notification.
Yeah I have learned that signature required has been disregarded on a few occasions with my wife and I. Honestly I have considered in the future, having high dollar items left at the local UPS store.
 
Yup and a call to the ATF. Sent it in for a PM so doesn’t ship back to a dealer. Took the day off to wait for it and they just left it. Crazy but I guess it’s good the driver or no one else knows what’s in the box.
I just think most of the time they're so stressed and trying to keep up that it just slips thru the cracks
 
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