Official Nikon Z9 Launch, Info, and Discussion Thread

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[wes]

I just got to hold the Z9 and play for about a minute with a 100-400 attached. Felt really good in the hand and the combo was wonderfully balanced. From the 15 seconds of shooting faces across a dimly lit auditorium, the AF seemed rock solid, locked right on the eye and wouldnt let go. I wish I would have had more time

Really really impressed!

 

[JimFromAZ]

Ordered a Delkin Black CFE type B 128 Gb this morning. Made a couple calls to local Camera Dealers and they are out of stock. Amazon has them in stock.

I've been watching Amazon as well the past few days but I've only seen Delkin Power (with the green color band) not Delkin Black cards. What did you pay for the 128gb card on Amazon? Thanks!

 

[Snapshot2020]

I've been watching Amazon as well the past few days but I've only seen Delkin Power (with the green color band) not Delkin Black cards. What did you pay for the 128gb card on Amazon? Thanks!

Correction ordered the Delkin Power thru Amazon, couldn’t find the Delkin Black. I‘ll use the 128 gb in the second slot.

 

[Oosty]

With the Rand/Dollar exchange rate, I'll wait for the Black Friday Special in 2031 - damn I'll be 87

 

[NorthernFocus]

Interesting. I could see that working. I was thinking what extra wear are we putting on aperture blades for lenses that likely had never been designed with thinking about 30 plus FPS. If they are only moving the aperture blades one time that makes a lot of sense. But then I wonder how low of f-stop can it hold closed and still perform AF to keep up with that frame rate. Could you be at F11 as an example and still maintain FPS and AF performance if you are keeping the aperture stopped down? As we look at super zooms with lower apertures of say 5.6, 6.3 and than using a tele you quickly are putting less light on the sensor for AF.

I've thought about this a good bit. I suspect when more documentation comes out there will be plenty of asterisks associated with the high frame rates. At least with the 120fps. The only thing that makes sense is that the aperture stays locked. Particularly with G lenses that have the mechanical actuator. Also due to the AF issue surely there has to be a minimum aperture requirement similar to the requirements for AF to perform on DSLRs. If a lens has to be at max aperture then it's a moot point. No blade movement.

 

[fcotterill]

I was up at the tender hour of 0130 this morning - GMT+1 - for a zoom talk with Thom Hogan and Mark Comon (Paul's Camera, Torrence CA). Much information was covered, some useful insights new to me, so well worth the nocturnal event.

One point of interest is among the first feedback of the Z9 from Michelle Valberg; she says the 100-400 f4.5/5.6S gives excellent quality with the ZTC2 at f11, using 3D Tracking + Eye-Detect on the Z9. Some of these examples also include 500 f5.6E PF+T2 III, which is no less encouraging. She will probably have much more to say about this aspects this weekend. Part of the Discussion day is Online (and free to registrants):

Revealing the Soul Within with Michelle Valberg

From environmental and travel to studio-style portraiture, Michelle will walk us through her vision and process of capturing people and their personalities in a single frame.

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Part of the Discussion day is Online (and free to registrants):
https://creativephotoacademy.com/event/revealing-the-soul-within-with-michelle-valberg-1/2021-11-07/

Michelle Valberg - Nikon Z 9 Test Run

 

[Steve W]

Forget the no camera to actually test message. Why would anyone give this person the time of day?

Lock him and Fro in a phone box and they can bore each other.

 

[fcotterill]

finally this troll attracted the attention only an acute sufferer of Relevance Deficit Syndrome could hope for, but destroyed any last grains of its credibility etc

The Angry Photographer is bashing the Z9: Nikon Z Mirrorless Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

Expert news, reviews and videos of the latest digital cameras, lenses, accessories, and phones. Get answers to your questions in our photography forums.

www.dpreview.com

Z9 a near failure, according to Ken Wheeler

www.fredmiranda.com

Lock him and Fro in a phone box and they can bore each other.

 

[fcotterill]

Far more relevant to this Thread....

AT LONG LAST PRAISE THE DAY HALLELUJAH!! Internal ProRes and RAW on a mirrorless camera finally arrives with Nikon Z9 - EOSHD.com - Filmmaking Gear and Camera Reviews

What!? A mirrorless camera finally gets INTERNAL ProRes 422? Also unexpectedly it’s Nikon to do it first. In my opinion this is a complete game changer for mirrorless cameras and no longer do we have to rely on crap external recorders or a Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera shorn of nice features...

www.eoshd.com

Sea Change.... yes the Z9 is a game Changer.... more of a D1, than a D3 moment

Yes, The Camera World Changed | Cameras and Photography Explained | Thom Hogan

Shutterless cameras are the new era in photography

bythom.com

And fyi

Winners and Losers | Thom Hogan

Winners and losers after the Z9 announcement

www.zsystemuser.com

 

[O]

I think the Z9 will be exciting and a rain desperately needed to break the drought for the Nikon owners who have been waiting for a great sports action camera for so long now.
I think there has been a lot of thought that's gone into this camera based on how real sports action photographers work flow operates, I give it an 8.7 out of 10.

For the sports pro paparazzi shooters weight is not an issue, for most other shooters its heavy and for a reason.

I think its going to meet a lot of expectations. A Z7II with higher frame rates and better focusing performance, the Z9 II will be improved again..
How do you feel being a Z7 or a Z7II owner with a Z7III looming.........
We are in a world where frequent model release is the way of the future, this is what software and digital products usually do.
The Z9 will be out and then there will be a Z9 II then a III, so just go for it, just know when to get in or out selling.

So you don't really like your D6 anymore ?????

Oz down under

 

[abc123brian]

I've thought about this a good bit. I suspect when more documentation comes out there will be plenty of asterisks associated with the high frame rates. At least with the 120fps. The only thing that makes sense is that the aperture stays locked. Particularly with G lenses that have the mechanical actuator. Also due to the AF issue surely there has to be a minimum aperture requirement similar to the requirements for AF to perform on DSLRs. If a lens has to be at max aperture then it's a moot point. No blade movement.

Seeing some of the videos demonstrate the Z9 doing eye AF in very dimly lit environments makes me think it might do just fine with a small aperture locked in. Will be interesting to see as more info is released.

 

[Wes Peterson]

Seeing some of the videos demonstrate the Z9 doing eye AF in very dimly lit environments makes me think it might do just fine with a small aperture locked in. Will be interesting to see as more info is released.

Its been said by the Nikon techs that for the first time in a nikon mirrorless the AF is not linked to the exposure. I take that to mean just because it looks dark to you doesnt mean that's how the camera is seeing it in regards to af.

 

[Venkatesh VT]

LOL - Just got the same one a couple days ago! I figured they might be in short supply soon, if they aren't already!

I am using Sony Tough CFExpress card Type A with A1 & finding the buffer to be pretty good.The speed of the card is only 800R & 700 W .From what i have read here the bst card to be used with Z9 seem to be having around 1700 R/W speeds.Does this meanthat CF Express cards Type A are better than Type B cards even at half the speed o?
Hope Steve would include this issue when he reviews Z9

 

[wes]

Its been said by the Nikon techs that for the first time in a nikon mirrorless the AF is not linked to the exposure. I take that to mean just because it looks dark to you doesnt mean that's how the camera is seeing it in regards to af.

I shot it last night in a very dimly lit auditorium and the AF locked right onto peoples eyes with no problem whatsoever. It was pretty impressive.

 

[abc123brian]

Its been said by the Nikon techs that for the first time in a nikon mirrorless the AF is not linked to the exposure. I take that to mean just because it looks dark to you doesnt mean that's how the camera is seeing it in regards to af.

I shot it last night in a very dimly lit auditorium and the AF locked right onto peoples eyes with no problem whatsoever. It was pretty impressive.

That sounds like it is going to be great for wildlife!

 

[Venkatesh VT]

Quoted from DP Review - https://www.dpreview.com/articles/3230207217/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-new-nikon-z9?slide=16

And if you don't wish to scroll through AF modes and area modes, and simply directly engage them instead, the Z9 finally sees the return of one of our favorite features on recent Nikon DSLRs: the ability to assign custom buttons to 'AF area mode + AF-ON' in order to switch to and engage any AF area mode, instantly. This means 3D Tracking could be your default focus mode engaged by the shutter button, while AF-ON or a Fn button could be assigned to instantly engage Single Point or Auto Area AF for those moments you don't want subject tracking AF. When the action is quick and you don't have the time to fumble with buttons and dials, this way of working can be revolutionary.

Does Z9 has a toggle feature like A1 does for cycling through the modes.In A1 one can simply toggle through the modes with out taking the eyes away from the EVF

 

[fcotterill]

As with the Z6/Z7 and D6, Nikon have hopefully perpetuated the option to set Red-Record to scroll AF modes using front & rear dials - with the right hand only whilst shooting.

Does Z9 has a toggle feature like A1 does for cycling through the modes.In A1 one can simply toggle through the modes with out taking the eyes away from the EVF

 

[John Navitsky]

I've thought about this a good bit. I suspect when more documentation comes out there will be plenty of asterisks associated with the high frame rates. At least with the 120fps. The only thing that makes sense is that the aperture stays locked. Particularly with G lenses that have the mechanical actuator. Also due to the AF issue surely there has to be a minimum aperture requirement similar to the requirements for AF to perform on DSLRs. If a lens has to be at max aperture then it's a moot point. No blade movement.

Assuming the camera has enough light to focus at whatever the desired aperture is selected, there should be no reason to move the aperture other than if it needs to make exposure corrections, no?

But yah, there are probably a number of asterisks. :-D

 

[fcotterill]

Video of yesterday's discussion is now publicly available, free from Paul's Photo CA

I was up at the tender hour of 0130 this morning - GMT+1 - for a zoom talk with Thom Hogan and Mark Comon (Paul's Camera, Torrence CA). Much information was covered, some useful insights new to me, so well worth the nocturnal event.

One point of interest is among the first feedback of the Z9 from Michelle Valberg; she says the 100-400 f4.5/5.6S gives excellent quality with the ZTC2 at f11, using 3D Tracking + Eye-Detect on the Z9. Some of these examples also include 500 f5.6E PF+T2 III, which is no less encouraging. She will probably have much more to say about this aspects this weekend. Part of the Discussion day is Online (and free to registrants):

Revealing the Soul Within with Michelle Valberg

From environmental and travel to studio-style portraiture, Michelle will walk us through her vision and process of capturing people and their personalities in a single frame.

creativephotoacademy.com

Part of the Discussion day is Online (and free to registrants):
https://creativephotoacademy.com/event/revealing-the-soul-within-with-michelle-valberg-1/2021-11-07/

 

[arbitrage]

Does Z9 has a toggle feature like A1 does for cycling through the modes.In A1 one can simply toggle through the modes with out taking the eyes away from the EVF

Probably not as Nikon's Z9 menu seems very similar to D6 type menu for customization and I don't think Nikon has many (any?) toggle options. That is one huge plus for Sony button customization as most options can be set to toggle and not just push and scroll. Typically Nikon cameras have a push and then scroll through AF modes (at least with Z cameras you don't have to use that button on the left front which is impossible to use handholding big lenses like on DSLRs). I think you can limit the AF modes in that scroll list if you don't use all of them. They do have the AF Mode for a custom button or AFON/AFMode. They also have a list of settings that can go to a button like Sony's Recall Custom Hold.

 

[PeterKelly]

I agree that it’s a pity Nikons (so far) don’t have a simple toggle feature for swapping between AF modes. I can never find the left side button on DSLR’s without looking and the press and scroll you need on the Z’s is not as quick and easy as a toggle.

 

[Darwin]

Got the first card, now I just need my Z9!View attachment 26845

Now I just got my 24-70 2.8 that was on sale this week but no Z camera to try it out lol. Really banking on that Z9 at this point.

 

[abc123brian]

Now I just got my 24-70 2.8 that was on sale this week but no Z camera to try it out lol. Really banking on that Z9 at this point.

I just received my Delkin Black card today. Have some Z lenses and a Z7ii to use it with until I get the call my Z9 is in.

 

[Mommacat]

I agree that it’s a pity Nikons (so far) don’t have a simple toggle feature for swapping between AF modes. I can never find the left side button on DSLR’s without looking and the press and scroll you need on the Z’s is not as quick and easy as a toggle.

I posted this earlier from DP Review. Isn't this what we want?

Quoted from DP Review - https://www.dpreview.com/articles/3230207217/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-new-nikon-z9?slide=16

And if you don't wish to scroll through AF modes and area modes, and simply directly engage them instead, the Z9 finally sees the return of one of our favorite features on recent Nikon DSLRs: the ability to assign custom buttons to 'AF area mode + AF-ON' in order to switch to and engage any AF area mode, instantly. This means 3D Tracking could be your default focus mode engaged by the shutter button, while AF-ON or a Fn button could be assigned to instantly engage Single Point or Auto Area AF for those moments you don't want subject tracking AF. When the action is quick and you don't have the time to fumble with buttons and dials, this way of working can be revolutionary.