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I do it in post when I can be selective as to where it is applied. I've been shooting models for many years now.
Forget Z8 versus Z9 spec sheets... Surely here's the whiner topic of the month for the utuber talking-heads....
In DSLR the D500/850/D5 had the same AF module. Yet the AF performance was clearly much better in the D5. It was always a topic of debate whether Nikon intentionally dumbed down the D500/850 to differentiate the D5. The Z8/9 are even more similar. So I suspect there's going to be a lot of discussion/debate on this topic in the future. Unfortunately few users have any idea how difficult it is to update firmware so will no doubt attribute any differences to the evil, money grubbing corporate bean counters.
right, but the D5 also had a different (faster) mirror box and faster processor
You should know better than to try to confuse those whose minds are made up by presenting facts. It didn't alter the debate/conspiracy theories then and it won't now
Could be the case of course…but the market for the Z8 is a lot larger both because of the lower price and the lack of a grip which a lot of people don’t want the weight of…so to me since outside of the grip and card difference which is very likely to be heat related in the smaller body they’re the same camera hardware wise limiting the Z8 against its non gripped Sony and Canon counterparts seems unlikely…but I’m not Nikon so who really knows.
You should try it. The softening is limited to skin - the same as you would apply in post. It's a relatively light touch. Straight from the camera you have better portraits and event photos. Obviously for those images worth spending additional time in post processing, you can tweak it - but not every image needs that kind of handling. I can tell you that for event photos, I never go to the added effort of retouching skin - it just does not pay and most are for web use anyway.I did not say I don't soften skin Eric!
Granted the commercial photographers who shoot on mass will not care how the final result looks much like the people who import everything with the same presets.
Yep…and TBH if both of them were available back when I would have gotten the Z8…don’t need the weight of the grip and I rarely shoot portrait.
No Need to watch the video.
They might skip it for other reasons…but I’m thinking not power unless the heat load becomes limiting. Auto capture is gonna be on a tripod and that makes it easy to drop an Anker PD bro k in the stone bag for it. I don’t think they need to differentiate between the two for other than physical hardware limitations reasons…because the grip does that for them already…and people will either want the grip pro body or the smaller lighter body…and realistically how much more profit do they make $wise on the Z9? There’s some increase of course…but a lot of the Z8 buyers would likely shift lower in price rather than higher if it didn’t exist because of the weight and!or don’t care bout the grip at all issue. Its fun to speculate either way…but only Nikon knows why they do what they do.
because software is complicated, and they only have so many resources to go around.
external factors about timing aside, everyone is upset if a bug slips through, do you want them to go through full testing or do you want them updated fast?
Although it's basically the same hardware, it's different firmware. I imagine when adding a feature it requires a comprehensive testing period to ensure there aren't any quirky things happening. For instance, maybe if bird tracking is on and you have custom setting d4 on, the camera locks up if you're using AF area wide (making that up, of course). There are tons of ways to mix and match settings that can result in unintended side effects - and you want them vetted out before release. After all, we've all been witness to what happens when Nikon messes something up - there is very little forgiveness to be found on the pages of Internet forums.
there is very little forgiveness to be found on the pages of Internet forums.
True. Do you think Nikon is testing every scenario possible? It would take them decades. That’s the reason modern software isn’t written anymore in plain “C” but rather in object oriented syntax in a modular structure.Although it's basically the same hardware, it's different firmware. I imagine when adding a feature it requires a comprehensive testing period to ensure there aren't any quirky things happening. For instance, maybe if bird tracking is on and you have custom setting d4 on, the camera locks up if you're using AF area wide (making that up, of course). There are tons of ways to mix and match settings that can result in unintended side effects - and you want them vetted out before release. After all, we've all been witness to what happens when Nikon messes something up - there is very little forgiveness to be found on the pages of Internet forums.
