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it’s unclear because the claims are so nonspecific. there were something similar claimed with the zf vs the z6ii specifically attributed to the expeed7, but it’s still a bit unclear to me and it’s unclear if that’s the kind of thing they are talking about or what. and it’s a rumor. but even if the rumor is true it could be something like a bug that they fixed. who knowsHow can they possibly improve ISO? Better Noise Reduction?! In RAW?
I’m curious
For deep sky I wouldn’t use pixel stacking ever. Doing well-dithered images (40+ of them) allows you to use a color camera drizzle operation which avoids using bayer entirely and accomplishes the same thing with potentially other benefits depending on if you’re under sampling or not.
This has always been the case, I believe it's a 2mp jpg preview image.
When you say 'doesn't work', do you mean can't select it, or it fails to keep up? Or something else?
Thanks for your reply.
Still appreciate your input.
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Most of the issues you mention are scene and image specific. Moving the camera slightly can mean the AF location changes - especially in subject detection modes. That can easily change a scene enough to change ISO, Auto WB, or other automated settings. I don't see anything wrong with firmware 2.0 and would not give up Bird AF even if there was a bug. But I do think your strategy to use Manual mode and fixed settings is useful - and that's been my approach for a number of years.Still appreciate your input.
I also shoot birds and wildlife using manual with auto ISO, and with firmware 2.0 I find myself going fully manual often due to the auto ISO acting weird with each camera movement I do. I don't know really what could be wrong. I wish I could install the 1.00 again do a reset from there but I don't have the bin file from 1.00. Does reinstalling old firmwares can have an impact on the body? ( I don't think so). I am trying to read all previous messages, and someone mention on Nikon improving ISO with a future update, now I have to say that got me right there
And to be honest is not something I like much to be breaking my head for days trying to figure it out whats going on as I like to be more intuitive with my photography but is part of it knowing the tools inside out.
I have to say I've learnt so much for the past days and also want to give thanks for this forum to exist and the work that Steve does as I find it really helpful.
I think the 180-600 has a control ring...could that be set to ISO? I just set mine to ISO to try it out and see how it works: I did not realize that the Z lenses had this control ring on when I first started using them and I kept changing aperture, it was perplexing until I figure it out. Just a thought...my Z8 and 600PF are working fine, aside from operator error on more occasions than there should be as I decide how to set the controls up to work for my way of shooting. It's almost like we need to take a class every time there is an update!Still appreciate your input.
I also shoot birds and wildlife using manual with auto ISO, and with firmware 2.0 I find myself going fully manual often due to the auto ISO acting weird with each camera movement I do. I don't know really what could be wrong. I wish I could install the 1.00 again do a reset from there but I don't have the bin file from 1.00. Does reinstalling old firmwares can have an impact on the body? ( I don't think so). I am trying to read all previous messages, and someone mention on Nikon improving ISO with a future update, now I have to say that got me right there
And to be honest is not something I like much to be breaking my head for days trying to figure it out whats going on as I like to be more intuitive with my photography but is part of it knowing the tools inside out.
I have to say I've learnt so much for the past days and also want to give thanks for this forum to exist and the work that Steve does as I find it really helpful.
You must have a different 180-600 than I do as mine does not feature a control ring. Rather, it has a MF and Zoom ring.
The focus ring is a control ring. It's just defaulted to MF.
I said "I think," as I only kept mine for a few days before I resold it. I know that the 100-400 and the 600PF both have two rings , one focus and one "control" and I can set the control ring to aperture, ISO and there are two other choices. Just trying to throw some help his way...
Technically, you are correct it is a control ring (2) which defaults to MF though it can be programmed to iso, aperture, etc. Unlike the 600, 800, the 180-600 doesn’t have a dedicated MF and separate control rings.
Something have changed, perhaps I pay too much attention to the details of how things operate. But as Eric Bowles said, It requires me to be doing good testing.
. But I do say to remember, photography it's not about the gear we use but the art we create and that we are able to express through these tools.
Firmware 1.0 was not provided as a download. It’s what was installed on the camera when it was new.
So if you set Manual focus override, changing ISO can't be assigned to the MF ring on z186?
That’s correct. If you’ve set the camera or lens to manual focus, the control ring on the 180-600 lens can only be used for focus adjustment. Any other setting for the control ring will be overridden.
Maybe I confused you with "Manual focus override". I meant while you are shooting AFC, AF would not auto-focus, but you can turn the MF ring to focus and then back to proceed with AF (it's using MF to help AF). In this situation, I think assigning MF ring to adjust iso will not work? Or conversely, if setting MF ring to adjust iso, then "Manual focus override" will not work?
The control ring can only have one function assigned to it. If you’ve assigned MF to it, you cannot use it to adjust ISO, and vice versa.
