Roy
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The Z7ii as a backup to the Z9 is worse than a D850 or D5 - Kept a D850 and sold the Z7ii ..
Nikon Z8
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jadewolf
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Yeah, I kept my D850, too. It's such a fantastic camera, I'm never giving it up! (Plus, I use it for film scanning.) Problem is, I now have enough Z glass that it becomes a bit unwieldy to carry both sets and the Z glass is often far better than my aging F glass. So I'm hanging onto the Z6II as a Z-based backup for trips where baggage weight is a concern, at least for a while. I totally feel like I'm in backup camera limbo, though.The Z7ii as a backup to the Z9 is worse than a D850 or D5 - Kept a D850 and sold the Z7ii ..
If the Z8 doesn't meet my expectations, I may have have to put serious consideration into a second Z9 down the line, much though I'd rather have a smaller form factor for my backup.
BlackRockArt
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Lauren, if I were you, I would just get another Z9. Other than the sentimental values, keeping both systems is just too much taxing logistically.
I am not doing any better: there are some 50 + old glasses scattered around: some are very specialized, as for the bodies, I am holding onto the titanium film cameras, there is jus tsomething special about those.
Oliver
I would like to point out that an OM-1 with a 100-400 lens is less than 5# and is probably a better wildlife camera and more like shooting a Z-9 than most of the other options. I say this because I switch from a D-500/500pf to that above OM Systems rig and I would find it difficult to go back to that DSLR even though it took great pictures.
Extra expense, not exactly. The rig camera+lens can sometimes be purchased new for under $3500.
Tom
Extra expense, not exactly. The rig camera+lens can sometimes be purchased new for under $3500.
Tom
jadewolf
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Yeah, I have a couple film bodies and some vintage glass I'm hanging onto, too. Every so often I'll dust them off and run a roll or two through them. I'm the nostalgic sort, what can I say? Haha. I keep thinking about selling off some non-vintage, but still older model F glass like my original run 70-200 VR and my 105 macro and some of my cheap D primes. But I keep holding back. It may be more hassle than it's worth to sell them, honestly.
I'm going to hold out a little longer, though, until we know for real what the Z8 looks like. Heck, it could be that the pricing of the Z8 is high enough that it just makes sense to go a little higher for a second Z9. I just wish Nikon would hurry up and tell us so I can make my choice, ha!
All I want from Z8 is that does not lock up like my Z9 & follows the footsteps of my A1 which never locked up
Once Z8 comes & meets me expectations I plan to sell my Z9 & buy Z8
Once Z8 comes & meets me expectations I plan to sell my Z9 & buy Z8
I can bet you 80%+ if the Z8 would be a mini Z9, the price will be really close. About 4K
No grip, No LAN, 8K 60 RAW but with a time limit, retain GPS, and a smaller battery. Thats it.
It would be a competition with the A1.
No grip, No LAN, 8K 60 RAW but with a time limit, retain GPS, and a smaller battery. Thats it.
It would be a competition with the A1.
Aren't lock-ups rare? just get another Z9 and hope you get a good copy
Roy
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I have a very early Z9 (Dec 24th) and haven't had any lockups yet ...
fcotterill
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Latest....
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Nikon Z8 brochure leaked online (very low resolution) - Nikon Rumors
In my post yesterday I mentioned that the internal code for Nikon Z8 is Q2070. Here is a leaked brochure comparing the Nikon Z8 and Z9 specs and you can see the Q2070 label on top. Unfortunately, the resolution is very small and the actual text is hard to read: Join the new Nikon Z8 Facebook […]
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If he is…then he can't admit it…and I'm ignoring the rumors for now…we'll see what the Z8 is when and if it's announced. Everybody has their own ideas on what it should be and I'm as willing to speculate and talk out of my butt as the next guy/gal…but that's all it is…random speculation.
I agree as well that 45 is enough…at least for me…but for me I'm happy with the 6/7 size as is…but then I've got regular sized hands. I'm not sure that a non grip body needs to be any bigger than the 6/7 size…there's really no reason for it unless they wanted to put in a bigger battery…and I'm not sure that ergonomics really supports a larger battery. Can't really make the hand grip any bigger which is where it is currently…and putting it down on the bottom like the Z9 essentially makes it a gripped body. Speaking as the computer guy…putting the Expeed7 in instead of the 6 would likely draw a little more power but if it's a smaller die size then that draws less power…so depending on all the variables it's not really clear how much less battery life it would have. Likewise for the sensor assuming they used the Z9 one…and again likewise for the improved EVF. However…My 7II has been known to go a couple of days and 600 or 700 frames on a single battery (I turn my bodies off generally between shots) and I've always had at least 1 extra with me…so even if a 7II sized 8 came out with half the frames on a battery I don't really see that as a major drawback…and it would be lighter than the 9 is. Size-wise…I'm perfectly happy with the 7II size…and what I really want is a non grip body with as much of the Z9's capabilities that I can get…don't care about video so they could reduce it to 4K if necessary to maintain price point and model differentiation…and while the 20/30/120 is nice…for most purposes for most of us that's sort of overkill…I would be happy with 12 or 15 FPS and 20 instead of 30…and I really don't care about 120 much at all. Others mileage varies of course…some want 60+MP for landscapes and some want even better low light performance although the really small sensor sites that 60+ requires fights better low light and noise performance…and some want even other things.
But as I said…we'll now when we see it
John Navitsky
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to be fair, i've heard of a1 lock ups as well
John Navitsky
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trying to decide if rumors are likely to ring true, but if we take the statement "mini z9" and combine it with the idea that it might have BETTER performance in some cases, might we read between the lines that it'll have a lower resolution 
i DO think it makes sense for Nikon to have a _lower_ resolution stacked sensor in it's parts bin. and less information to process makes everything faster.
personally this is what i hope for.
i DO think it makes sense for Nikon to have a _lower_ resolution stacked sensor in it's parts bin. and less information to process makes everything faster.
personally this is what i hope for.
Eh…if you don't want to carry both lens mounts…or the FTZ and accept the generally not as good compared to the Z mount lenses F mount ones…then the 7II or 6II is really the best backup for a 9 from a size/weight/carry standpoint. From a AF standpoint the 850 is better of course…except that the Zs have newer processors and algorithms…and while the 7II or 6II isn't the AF beast the 9 is it's still similar in the way it works. Not similar enough as the things that work differently than the 9 (modes vs banks and fewer AF modes mostly)…those things make it not as good a backup as another 9 or a 9 like Z8 or 7III would be but to my mind having a backup body that uses the same lenses with the same quality is probably better than a completely different one…especially as any of the Z lenses one might have just can't be used on an 850. I would swap my 7II for a 9 like non grip body in a heartbeat though…my personal guess is that whatever we get will have a 45 (or maybe larger) sensor but the same one seems like a good amortization of the dev cost of the sensor unless they really see a large number going for a larger one…and that we'll see the AF modes and processor of the 9 but with slower max frame rates and maybe no 8K…both for price point and model differentiation and because they're not about to orphan the Z9 by producing a non grip but everything else the same little brother…because the proportion of people that want a. gripped body is way smaller than those that want a non gripped body.The Z7ii as a backup to the Z9 is worse than a D850 or D5 - Kept a D850 and sold the Z7ii ..
I've though about buying a second 9 to solve the problem…but the reality is that most of the time I'm walking/hiking and only have a single body with me…the backup one is back in the hotel. If I was on a bucket list trip like Africa or CR or whatever…where we would mostly be in vehicles and not walking…I would have the backup body but it would be in the bag and not (except in Africa) be out with a lens mounted all the. time, although in a mostly vehicle outing having it in the bag with a lens on it is about the same thing.
jadewolf
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"Very low resolution" is quite the understatement. This reminds me of blurry UFO sighting photos. Or maybe Nessie.Latest....
Nikon Z8 brochure leaked online (very low resolution) - Nikon Rumors
In my post yesterday I mentioned that the internal code for Nikon Z8 is Q2070. Here is a leaked brochure comparing the Nikon Z8 and Z9 specs and you can see the Q2070 label on top. Unfortunately, the resolution is very small and the actual text is hard to read: Join the new Nikon Z8 Facebook […]
Slap this on a poster with "I want to believe"
arbitrage
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Can Topaz Sharpen AI make that legible? I doubt it, but I'm not at home to try.Latest....
Nikon Z8 brochure leaked online (very low resolution) - Nikon Rumors
In my post yesterday I mentioned that the internal code for Nikon Z8 is Q2070. Here is a leaked brochure comparing the Nikon Z8 and Z9 specs and you can see the Q2070 label on top. Unfortunately, the resolution is very small and the actual text is hard to read: Join the new Nikon Z8 Facebook […]
I tried Sharpen AI on the downloaded image of that table at various Topaz settings. No good. Cannot read anything; it was a blurry mess.
If its truly a real picture, the dedicated AF button to the side is hinting me same AF as the Z9. Copy paste.
Sharpen AI to see what the Z8 is all about?? You guys are CENSORED.
Tom
Tom
More leaked Nikon Z8 camera specifications - Nikon Rumors
Here are some more leaked Nikon Z8 camera specifications (see also this post): Sensor: 45.7MP (stacked) ISO range: 64-25,600 20 fps (120fps in JPEG mode) 5-axis in-body stabilizations: 6 stops Shutter speed: 1/32000 – 900s Electronic shutter only Autofocus: 493 AF points HEIF 10-bit support...
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BlackRockArt
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Latest rumors state price is 4599 euros. They don't state launch price in other currencies but note if you convert it to US dollars it is around 5000. (I doubt Nikon would do a direct conversion and would likely give a separate US price). Even if it was 4599 US dollars, or possibly more like 4899, that seems expensive to me. The Sony A7R5 is 3899 and I have a hard time understanding why anyone would choose this instead. (Ignoring the obvious that if you are invested in Nikon Z system you are somewhat forced into it).More leaked Nikon Z8 camera specifications - Nikon Rumors
Here are some more leaked Nikon Z8 camera specifications (see also this post): Sensor: 45.7MP (stacked) ISO range: 64-25,600 20 fps (120fps in JPEG mode) 5-axis in-body stabilizations: 6 stops Shutter speed: 1/32000 – 900s Electronic shutter only Autofocus: 493 AF points HEIF 10-bit support...
It will be 4599 Euro, here it will be US$4599.
Alistair
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Latest rumors state price is 4599 euros. They don't state launch price in other currencies but note if you convert it to US dollars it is around 5000. (I doubt Nikon would do a direct conversion and would likely give a separate US price). Even if it was 4599 US dollars, or possibly more like 4899, that seems expensive to me. The Sony A7R5 is 3899 and I have a hard time understanding why anyone would choose this instead. (Ignoring the obvious that if you are invested in Nikon Z system you are somewhat forced into it).More leaked Nikon Z8 camera specifications - Nikon Rumors
Here are some more leaked Nikon Z8 camera specifications (see also this post): Sensor: 45.7MP (stacked) ISO range: 64-25,600 20 fps (120fps in JPEG mode) 5-axis in-body stabilizations: 6 stops Shutter speed: 1/32000 – 900s Electronic shutter only Autofocus: 493 AF points HEIF 10-bit support...
Also, the fast stacked sensor is very expensive and puts it in a higher price bracket than the Sony. But totally worth it if you need that feature.
Alistair
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10 bit HEIF would be nice. Especially if it is available at 30-60-120 FPS and pre-capture. Hopefully they have not held back on the spec to protect the Z9. Throw everything at it that won't tip it over $4,499!
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