Sony 400-800 f/6.3-8 G lens coming in Feb EDIT: It's here and Steve has it!!

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So is this a response to the Canon telescope? Does anyone know if it is internal/external zoom, approximate price, etc? I guess it would be a bit smaller than the 800 PF simply because it is f/8, but given that Sony has the solid 200-600, I'm surprised that they didn't try to produce a lightweight 800 similar to Nikon's PF. Then again, as arbitrage observed, it may be aimed at videographers?
Asking as a videographer, why do you think this is made for videographers? If anything, video lenses require better, not worse optics than photogeaphy lenses and f/8 is a non-starter. They also have fairly specific features that aren't obvious here.

It seems to me like an entry-level supertele zoom and I'm sure it'll do great. I couldn't imagine using it for video.
 
I never expected it to be shorter or lighter than the 200-600. I doubt that would even be possible.
I thought since it was a smaller aperture that it would totally be possible. Cannon has the 800f11 that’s light as a feather and their new 200-800 is lighter than the Sony 200-600.
 
If its optics are as good as the 200-600 then it should sell good. Even owning the 600f4 I still use my 200-600 very often. I think I got a good copy because in good light with the right background the image quality is great imo. For someone like myself that shoots primarily small birds, I can see it being a great addition. A lot of places I frequent I honestly prefer a zoom.
 
Looks like an intriguing option for Sony shooters. It's amazing how much you use 800mm once you have it in your kit.
That’s what I thought as well. If I were still with Nikon I would absolutely have the 800pf. I’ve heard lots of good things about that lens. I personally still like the idea of having a zoom especially when you do video as well. It’s just far more versatile.
 
Looks like an intriguing option for Sony shooters. It's amazing how much you use 800mm once you have it in your kit.
Having come from 600 f/4 primes which frequently had 1.4x TC's, the Nikon 800 f/6.3 was a game changer for me. The 800 f/6.3 is only 1/3rd a stop slower, nearly 1/2-1/3rd the price, and approximately 1/3rd lighter than the f/4 prime. That's why I am surprised that Sony didn't aim that way.
 
Asking as a videographer, why do you think this is made for videographers? If anything, video lenses require better, not worse optics than photogeaphy lenses and f/8 is a non-starter. They also have fairly specific features that aren't obvious here.

It seems to me like an entry-level supertele zoom and I'm sure it'll do great. I couldn't imagine using it for video.
Who said the optics are worse than those used on still lenses and it might be a great lens for the amateur videographer shooting WL, particularly in decent light.
 
Who said the optics are worse than those used on still lenses and it might be a great lens for the amateur videographer shooting WL, particularly in decent light.
I equate entry-level with amateur, so I think we're saying the same thing. Shooting video at 800mm requires a very very stable tripod and the best optics. I can't imagine great video coming out of this lens, but maybe good enough for whatever it's used for.
 
Having come from 600 f/4 primes which frequently had 1.4x TC's, the Nikon 800 f/6.3 was a game changer for me. The 800 f/6.3 is only 1/3rd a stop slower, nearly 1/2-1/3rd the price, and approximately 1/3rd lighter than the f/4 prime. That's why I am surprised that Sony didn't aim that way.
I think Sony targets Canon and follows some of those lens designs over Nikon. Sony has made sharper, smaller and lighter lenses than Canon so in that way they are winning.
 
Asking as a videographer, why do you think this is made for videographers? If anything, video lenses require better, not worse optics than photogeaphy lenses and f/8 is a non-starter. They also have fairly specific features that aren't obvious here.

It seems to me like an entry-level supertele zoom and I'm sure it'll do great. I couldn't imagine using it for video.
I also thought of videographers when I saw the 400-800 specs. But I respect your opinion when it comes to video as much as anyone on here.
My thoughts stemmed from seeing most amateur wildlife/bird videographers using lenses like 200-600 or 150-600 type lenses. Shooting a slower SS for good video seems to allow them to use slower f-stop like 6.3 or 8 which also gives better DOF for video.
I understand that the professionals are using $50K+ video zoom lenses but obviously this is a different market.
 
I also thought of videographers when I saw the 400-800 specs. But I respect your opinion when it comes to video as much as anyone on here.
My thoughts stemmed from seeing most amateur wildlife/bird videographers using lenses like 200-600 or 150-600 type lenses. Shooting a slower SS for good video seems to allow them to use slower f-stop like 6.3 or 8 which also gives better DOF for video.
I understand that the professionals are using $50K+ video zoom lenses but obviously this is a different market.
It will certainly give easy/cheap access to 800mm to Sony shooters, so from that perspective, yes, in the flick of a switch you are shooting video. So maybe shooting large mammals far away and on a very good tripod. Or a bird on a stick.

Two of the most important features for zooms for video are parfocality and focus breathing, and entry-level zooms dont have these.

The lens will be out soon enough and we'll see how the footage looks.
 
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The only thing they improved significantly is weight. Size is about the same as previous generation and price is certainly not moderate for 300mm.
I certainly agree with the price. I tried out the lens for several days thru Sony and would love to have it. Having said that, $6K is just too much imo. If I find a really good deal at some point I still might get one but just no way I can stomach paying that. The 200-800 has sorta halted that desire in the meantime as well and would most likely be more useful.
 
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Where do the f-stops change on the focal length range? I'm still watching the video so not sure if you went over it in there.

Nevermind...just got to that part:

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Anyone catch the price? It’s appears to be a solid choice for some. For me having the 200-600, 300,400,600GM lenses it isn’t anything I need. The slight gain over the 200-600 isn’t worth the money it would take between selling and replacing. My 200-600 hasn’t been used in a year or so.
 
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