New Z9 firmware update - V5.10

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Supplement to Post #98 above... Some of the main threads with feedback to respective Z9 Firmware updates

Z 9 Firmware 2.0 coming April 20.

https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/mirrorless-cameras/firmware-updates/z-9-firmware-2-point-0.page?utm_source=WWA&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=wwa-z9-firmware-en_US-4-13-2022&utm_content=btn&utm_term=FindOutMore&ET_CID=4193299&ET_RID=326698791&SC_ID=0032400000mCcamAAC&tab=video
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Z9 Firmware 2.0: feedback on AF, RSF...

It is great the current Nikon flagship has improved significantly. Here's a couple of initial observations after install and setup... 1. Initial testing suggests customizing one of the Wide-Custom AF modes to Single-Point with Subject-Detection has significant potential. As found previously...
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Nikon Z9 3.0 Settings Spreadsheet

Hello all, still trying to finetune my new Z9, does anyone have a Nikon Z9 Settings Spreadsheet firmware 3.0 or greater that they would like to share?
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Z9 Firmware 3.0 Released

Just saw this on the Nikon site. Z9 Firmware 3.0 Update Note: The changes listed below under “Still Photography”, “Video Recording”, “Displays”, “Playback”, “Controls”, and “Network” are detailed in the Supplementary Firmware Update Manual. ■ Still Photography • The [Image size] item in the...
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Z9 firmware 4.01

Has been released. Minor bug fixes. https://nikonrumors.com/2023/08/22/nikon-z9-firmware-update-version-4-01-released.aspx/
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Z9 Firmware 4.0 Available

Link to Software Note: Users of the following software will need to update to the latest versions. • Camera Control Pro 2 version 2.36.0 or later, IPTC Preset Manager version 1.3.0 or later, NX Studio version 1.4.0 or later, NX MobileAir version 1.2 or later (Android edition), NX Field...
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Nikon Z9 firmware 4.0 Auto Capture

I downloaded 4.0, read the manual and cannot get the Auto Capture to work. Here is what happens: Auto Capture shows up in the Photo Shooting Menu, clicking on that and clicking on the "start" with the "OK" button the camera goes into recording. The problem is I cannot get to the Auto Capture...
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Auto Capture problems and discussion

I don't see a thread regarding Auto Capture? A question regarding auto capture. I tried to use it today and it was complete failure! I set up with auto area af and then No matter what settings I tried, every time I started the process, the scene would go completely out of focus and if I tried...
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Nikon Z9 + 4.1 Firmware: The New King Of Birding?

Is there a new king for subject detection with birds? Over the last few weeks, I've been putting the Z9 with firmware 4.1 to the test - and I've been doing it alongside the Sony a1. In this video, we'll talk about how the Z9 (firmware 4.1) compares to the a1 when it comes to bird detection -...
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Firmware 5 New AUTO CAPTURE FEATURES

IMO these are very welcome. I am not sure why BIRD subject detection still isn't there. I have taken these and some of the text from the supplemental manual for FW5.0. I have reordered them with the top three being the ones I think will get most attention. New Release Mode Options You...
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fcotterill said:
Supplement to Post #98 above... Some of the main threads with feedback to respective Z9 Firmware updates

Z 9 Firmware 2.0 coming April 20.

https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/mirrorless-cameras/firmware-updates/z-9-firmware-2-point-0.page?utm_source=WWA&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=wwa-z9-firmware-en_US-4-13-2022&utm_content=btn&utm_term=FindOutMore&ET_CID=4193299&ET_RID=326698791&SC_ID=0032400000mCcamAAC&tab=video
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Z9 Firmware 2.0: feedback on AF, RSF...

It is great the current Nikon flagship has improved significantly. Here's a couple of initial observations after install and setup... 1. Initial testing suggests customizing one of the Wide-Custom AF modes to Single-Point with Subject-Detection has significant potential. As found previously...
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Nikon Z9 3.0 Settings Spreadsheet

Hello all, still trying to finetune my new Z9, does anyone have a Nikon Z9 Settings Spreadsheet firmware 3.0 or greater that they would like to share?
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Z9 Firmware 3.0 Released

Just saw this on the Nikon site. Z9 Firmware 3.0 Update Note: The changes listed below under “Still Photography”, “Video Recording”, “Displays”, “Playback”, “Controls”, and “Network” are detailed in the Supplementary Firmware Update Manual. ■ Still Photography • The [Image size] item in the...
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Z9 firmware 4.01

Has been released. Minor bug fixes. https://nikonrumors.com/2023/08/22/nikon-z9-firmware-update-version-4-01-released.aspx/
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Z9 Firmware 4.0 Available

Link to Software Note: Users of the following software will need to update to the latest versions. • Camera Control Pro 2 version 2.36.0 or later, IPTC Preset Manager version 1.3.0 or later, NX Studio version 1.4.0 or later, NX MobileAir version 1.2 or later (Android edition), NX Field...
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Nikon Z9 firmware 4.0 Auto Capture

I downloaded 4.0, read the manual and cannot get the Auto Capture to work. Here is what happens: Auto Capture shows up in the Photo Shooting Menu, clicking on that and clicking on the "start" with the "OK" button the camera goes into recording. The problem is I cannot get to the Auto Capture...
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Auto Capture problems and discussion

I don't see a thread regarding Auto Capture? A question regarding auto capture. I tried to use it today and it was complete failure! I set up with auto area af and then No matter what settings I tried, every time I started the process, the scene would go completely out of focus and if I tried...
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Nikon Z9 + 4.1 Firmware: The New King Of Birding?

Is there a new king for subject detection with birds? Over the last few weeks, I've been putting the Z9 with firmware 4.1 to the test - and I've been doing it alongside the Sony a1. In this video, we'll talk about how the Z9 (firmware 4.1) compares to the a1 when it comes to bird detection -...
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Firmware 5 New AUTO CAPTURE FEATURES

IMO these are very welcome. I am not sure why BIRD subject detection still isn't there. I have taken these and some of the text from the supplemental manual for FW5.0. I have reordered them with the top three being the ones I think will get most attention. New Release Mode Options You...
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Interesting commentary from Thom Hogan: Big Updates versus Small Updates

Big Updates Versus Small Updates | Thom Hogan

Making sense of the Z System updates
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overall i agree with Thom’s comments, people forget how far things have evolved.

i do think he is wrong about the expeed8 tho. i do think we’ll see an expeed8 instead of a “helper chip”. but i don’t expect it to be a whole new thing, i expect it mostly to be a faster with some new features.

generally speaking it’s easier to simply drop in a better chip than accommodate something DIFFERENT
 
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John Navitsky said:
overall i agree with Thom’s comments, people forget how far things have evolved.

i do think he is wrong about the expeed8 tho. i do think we’ll see an expeed8 instead of a “helper chip”. but i don’t expect it to be a whole new thing, i expect it mostly to be a faster with some new features.

generally speaking it’s easier to simply drop in a better chip than accommodate something DIFFERENT
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The dilemma might be that an Expeed 8 won't be ready within the next year or so, therefore the "helper chip" approach as used in the Z6II/Z7II. Just a guess, though.
 
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as an aside, and it's deep speculation, but i think the dual expeed6 design was something they planned to do more with, but abandoned in favor of the expeed7 centric overhaul.

it really didn't make sense to redesign the logic board (and all the other changes that would also have to happen) to house that second expeed6 for the very modest features we got because of it.

it makes more sense to me that they had a change of plans and it simply didn't make sense to put more r&d into a (then) dead approach.

just a guess
 
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JAJohnson said:
The dilemma might be that an Expeed 8 won't be ready within the next year or so
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it is a good point that it really depends on what they plan to tackle with it.

we can assume they will need a major revision to handle any significantly new tech, like, let's imagine, say, a 50mp global shutter camera, or some sort of new red influenced new shutter tech.

but i'm guessing we're a generation out from that. so i'd expect them to have a major expeed/architectural update timed to coorispond to that.

so in the mean time, you either try to stretch the expeed7, or you do a minor spec bump. i expect the latter because i don't think you can handle things like cfe-b v4 with the expeed7 (i don't know this for sure, it's a guess, but generally speaking, it makes more sense to do integrated packaging, so i'm guessing they need a new chip). so handle faster i/o and maybe faster processing to handle c2pa directly in the pipeline at speed including faster speed. ie, the whole pipeline, including the new c2pa part, needs to work at speed for like 30fps.
 
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John Navitsky said:
it is a good point that it really depends on what they plan to tackle with it.

we can assume they will need a major revision to handle any significantly new tech, like, let's imagine, say, a 50mp global shutter camera, or some sort of new red influenced new shutter tech.

but i'm guessing we're a generation out from that. so i'd expect them to have a major expeed/architectural update timed to coorispond to that.

so in the mean time, you either try to stretch the expeed7, or you do a minor spec bump. i expect the latter because i don't think you can handle things like cfe-b v4 with the expeed7 (i don't know this for sure, it's a guess, but generally speaking, it makes more sense to do integrated packaging, so i'm guessing they need a new chip). so handle faster i/o and maybe faster processing to handle c2pa directly in the pipeline at speed including faster speed. ie, the whole pipeline, including the new c2pa part, needs to work at speed for like 30fps.
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Clarification on 50mp global shutter.

There isn't one available for non-defense purposes. The Red Raptor 8k has a 35mp one, the largest on the market, probably costs $12,000 or so, and it doesn't fit a full-frame body. Being VistaVision, the sensor is longer by 4mm (but shorter diagnol). Also, it's designed by someone else (probably Forza Sillicon) and made by Onsemi. Finally, it requires active cooling. Not clear what rights if any were transferred to Nikon when they bought Red.

The first global shutter in a Nikon will almost certainly come from Sony, but only after they put it in their own flagship and it won't be bigger than 24 or maybe 26mp. Fast readout rolling shutter is most likely what will dominate high MP cameras for a long time.
 
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John Navitsky said:
fair. i didn’t really mean that as a prediction in itself, but just an example to help people imagine changes that might require a significant update to the expeed architecture
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I agree. And Nikon doesn't make radical changes lightly. My work doesn't require the performance people are looking for on the Z9ii, and I think incremental improvement will satisfy most users.
 
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Nimi said:
The first global shutter in a Nikon will almost certainly come from Sony, but only after they put it in their own flagship and it won't be bigger than 24 or maybe 26mp. Fast readout rolling shutter is most likely what will dominate high MP cameras for a long time.
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I think you’re correct regarding global shutter sensor size. And I’m darn near certain Nikon won’t be on the bleeding edge. The financial resources required and the subsequent risk is not in alignment with its business strategies.
 
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jpgrove said:
Cfexpress 4.0 would require significant hardware and software rework and I can’t see that appearing until a new chipset, the current performance of the Z9 doesn’t fully utilise the current cfexpress 3.0 bandwidth.
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my theory is the expeed7 only has one pci lane to the cfe-b (like a raspberry pi) and _that_ is the limitation, not the actual ability of the processor to fill the bandwidth pipe.

in fact, i'd be surprised if this didn't look a lot like a custom raspberry pi.

so my theory is they need a version that has more/faster pci lanes.

if my web of speculations hold together (doubtful, lol), then they wouldn't really need a lot of sw work that would be taken care of with the hw and driver layers.

basically, it would be similar to moving from a pi4 to a pi5
 
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