In most cases you are correct but in PS for example, the remove tool works best in automatic which chooses the best mode of action. In LRC content aware does do well most of the time.
Adobes future credit charges
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Have there been any new announcements about Adobe charging for extra generative credits once you exceed your limit? Or am I missing something?
As far as I’ve seen, there’s no reason to worry about unexpected charges. Adobe has clearly stated that once you use up your monthly credits, the only consequence—for now—is that generation speeds may be slower. That’s it.
The credit system was introduced because these AI-powered features require significantly more computing power than traditional tools. It’s a way for Adobe to manage server load, balance usage, and ensure fairness among users.
At this point, it seems Adobe is still evaluating the impact of generative features on their infrastructure before deciding whether to charge for usage beyond the included credits. Hopefully, they’ll continue to offer a generous free tier without extra fees.
As far as I’ve seen, there’s no reason to worry about unexpected charges. Adobe has clearly stated that once you use up your monthly credits, the only consequence—for now—is that generation speeds may be slower. That’s it.
The credit system was introduced because these AI-powered features require significantly more computing power than traditional tools. It’s a way for Adobe to manage server load, balance usage, and ensure fairness among users.
At this point, it seems Adobe is still evaluating the impact of generative features on their infrastructure before deciding whether to charge for usage beyond the included credits. Hopefully, they’ll continue to offer a generous free tier without extra fees.
I have the "creative cloud" "all apps", I pay annually. I have no idea what this "credits" thing is LOL but I have used the remove and generative stuff a few times and never saw anything about $ or credits ...
So I just looked up on my account and it says I have 1000/1000 and it resets may 13 so I get 1000 monthly it appears. Guess I need to use them up.
So I just looked up on my account and it says I have 1000/1000 and it resets may 13 so I get 1000 monthly it appears. Guess I need to use them up.
But what if you'd spend the same $ on $ADBE back the first time you spend $ on an Adobe product, might work out well.Exactly! All I need to do is remove people or other items that are man made or sticks etc.
Once they went to rent ware I left, but I’m trying them for a year or two and will see after that.
Even the cell phone company I had used roll over minutes years ago!! Adobe is by far the greediest SW company I’ve had to use. Rentware
I agree though, I preferred the buy software format and first had Photoshop 25 years ago.
My main reason for the thread is trying to figure out why the credits were being used. Adobe told me yesterday there more than likely will be a charge applied in the near future but could not give me a projected date. I’ve seen no literature stating the speeds would be slowed once the credits were depleted and the agent never mentioned that as well. I will change my habits with the tools going forward to mitigate the risk of charges on the future.
Hopefully Adobe will do the right thing regarding future charges. They have to understand at this point they’re not the only gig in town and there are many other programs that can be bought that are very capable in today’s times. I’ve been using Adobe products for close to 20 years now and prior to that just did everything within Apple photos. Having said that, I can’t imagine starting over again with new software at this age but if that’s what it takes then I’m willing to do that. I consider what I pay yearly now to be a fair price, especially with the amount I use the products. I don’t want to get into a situation to where I feel limited in my use of the software because of worrying about stupid credits. That is really my main point of posting this thread to be honest. I think I could get over Lightroom classic pretty quickly, especially with DXO photo lab. Photoshop is the one I would have a really hard time leaving. I’ve spent so many hours and even purchased classes in the past to become proficient in that program and really don’t want to leave it. Hopefully everything will pan out, and this will be a non-issue.
“Currently, we are not enforcing generative credit limits on standard features for users with Creative Cloud subscriptions. Once you hit your limit, you may experience reduced generation speeds.”
There’s one other thing that I wish they would make available. That is to see how many credits you actually have used because all it states now is, you’ve depleted 250. There is no total anywhere.
When selecting my avatar at the top right of the home page after I log in, I can see how many credits I’ve used. I can’t find how I’ve used them, though.
You can only see EXIF info for this image if you are logged in.
Yes, I’m aware of that screen. That’s where I realized I had used them, but it will not tell you how many you have used above the 250 allotment.
So basically, I don’t know if I’ve used 500 or 2000 at this point it just stops counting at that level
I don't think the remove tool has resolution limits. Generative expand and generative fill does, but not remove, to my knowledge anyway.
I think you are correct
I believe Topaz is now offering cloud processing credits that are said to allow faster processing. My concern is that this gives a developer less incentive to make its standaline product faster. And may create an incentive to cause the standalone product to be slower or to limit certain features to use with credits.
DxO does not have a subscription. But they seem to do annual updates. You do not have to buy the new version, of course, but so far I have tended to upgrade.
So far I have found the Adobe photography plan a good value, given how much I use it, its wide array of features, and the new features that have been regularly added to it. I had the ~$10 a month plan and shifted to paying annually to keep the cost the same (putting aside the time value of money of paying upfront).
DxO does not have a subscription. But they seem to do annual updates. You do not have to buy the new version, of course, but so far I have tended to upgrade.
So far I have found the Adobe photography plan a good value, given how much I use it, its wide array of features, and the new features that have been regularly added to it. I had the ~$10 a month plan and shifted to paying annually to keep the cost the same (putting aside the time value of money of paying upfront).
I did the same with Adobe last year and just paid annually. I agree with your sentiments on top has labs and I think they have really went downhill over the last couple years when trying to integrate all these programs into one I think they were better served keeping their product separate or at least that’s my opinion.
I also prefer the older, separate Topaz products to Topaz Photo AI. So far, they still work, although I get some odd screen blinking in my Macs with Sharpen AI.
My Mac won’t let me update sharpen so I use an older version
TomRC
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I don’t think you will miss LR in the least but PS as you say is a different story because that is where the power really lies once your photography editing skills advance. From my limited very short experience with DXO Photolabs I can say that LR is already a distant memory but will have to find some PS workarounds that may or may not exist. An example would be higher end architectural / interior / real estate photography where you do an HDR merge of 3 or 5 exposures plus an additional image (the most important image) lit by strobes. An HDR merge of the first set of images can be done easily in other programs like DXO but masking and blending in that last image lit by strobes to get perfect color is what really separates amateur from high end work and is done via PS Layer styles and effects. It is more than just a simple “mask and brush in” technique like you do in LR or DXO.
This is just one example but if you are someone who really dives deeper into PS than a typical hobbyist I’m afraid you will miss some stuff, maybe a lot of stuff in PS. Older and not making $$$ any more with my gear but if I were a working pro I would think twice about switching away from LR/PS. Not because of LR but definitely because PS is such a powerful tool. But If you are just a hobbyist, even an advanced hobbyist I think there are more than a few compelling reasons to consider a switch.
Yeah PS is definitely the app I use the most and have spent literally hundreds of hours learning it and reading about it. Affinity has a lot but not quite there yet.
I think there should also be some incentives offered by Adobe to longtime users, such as myself just for loyalty if nothing else.
viper699
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You lost me $ADBE ??
I completely agree this is what will be the standard for the consumer market. You want faster, buy our credits etc for a more consistent revenue stream for the vendor- that’s their bet at least
I do feel SW performance for the average user, like me, will drop, but some vendors may not do so as a competitive advantage- will see
Why older? I’m considering Topaz in general for my PC.
It seems to me that the results from Topaz Sharpen AI often look more natural to me than the results from Topaz Photo AI. That may mostly mean that I have to play around more with the models and settings sliders in Photo AI.
I don't use Topaz Denoise AI that much these days. I run most of my photos through DxO PureRaw and I find its noise reduction to be pretty good. That said, over recent years I have occasionally seen photos where noise reduction results were better in ACR/LR, DeNoise AI, or Photo AI than in DxO. So I think it can be useful to have more than one way to do noise reduction.
In most cases, after running a photo through PureRaw, I find it does not need any further sharpening for viewing (as opposed to printing).
viper699
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Thanks! And for printing what do you use?
I generally use QImage One for printing on an Epson Surecolor 800. Thom Hogan had recommended it some years back. Among other things, it adds sharpening for printing.
I’m not sure if it is the best approach, but I like it.
viper699
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Thanks! Decent price, not rentware.
Not sure how to say this, is it more like an image layout, prep for printing, match settings for proper printing as opposed to digital development?
I’ll bookmark it.