IF your main camera is the Z9 what would you choose as a second camera body?

[nhzen]

Do you have any regrets having a second camera body? I guess I'm asking if it was worth the investment?

@Darrellhar IMHO a second body is a must if one travels at all. Just think, going all that way and having a failure, and I'm not just referring to a camera failure - a friend of mine lost his camera over the edge of the Grand Canyon (hey, things happen!). I once had one fall down and simply stop working, even with the legendary Nikon toughness.

So to your question, no regrets at all, totally worth the investment, just from that angle. And once you have the second body, there's the advantage of having instant access to two focal lengths at the same time without a zoom, or beyond the range of a single zoom. (Yeah, there's the matter of money, but that's a whole other discussion.)

 

[ricardo00]

I'm glad I searched for this before posting as there are a lot of good ideas in this thread. I currently own a Z9 and have opportunity to purchase a second one used from friend for about the same price as a new Z8. I really do like the idea of being able to set up both cameras the same way (easily) and really enjoy using the larger battery. I've never owned a capable backup camera and I'm trying to decide whether to pull the trigger on this or not. As a landscape, sports and sometimes wildlife shooter a second body would be more of a luxury than a requirement (I've done this long without one). I personally can't imagine what they could add to a Z9 ii that would make me want to upgrade (famous last words of all of us I'm sure) so having two version 1's would have them last that much longer. It is interesting to read what others use second cameras for and decisions they would make depending on what second was for. Again famous last words but I think I'm done purchasing lens, unless they release something that I can't think of, so having second body would not keep me from that purchase. I generally over think and analyze any new large purchases and this is no exception. For those that have a second (or third body) are there any other reasons you own it other than one of these? Backup in case first goes in for service, backup for big trip, second camera for second lens, smaller camera for different type of shooting.
Ultimately I'm trying to justify in my head the purchase of a camera that I know is going to drop in price over next year as rumors of version 2 get more often. I can already purchase it for less than I have seen other used copies (and this would already come with L bracket and couple extra batteries making it an even better deal). Just trying to justify in my head the purchase and what better way to do that than ask others that spend a ton on the same hobby.

Not sure anyone can answer your question of whether the next iteration will have enough features for you to feel that you should have waited (if I understand your post). I bought the Z9 and then a Z8 as my second body. Yes it would be nice to have two Z9s but for me, the extra weight is a deal breaker. Will most likely buy the next generation if it has RAW precapture and blinkies in the EVF and better focus, etc. But all of us have to decide how much any feature is worth.
PS. Agree with nhzen, for me a second body is a must for my photographic trips. I put two lenses of different focal lengths and have one set up for stills (the longer lens) and one for video. Of course one can change settings, but when things happen fast, easier to just grab the other camera depending on whether I prefer stills or a video.

 

[canyonlight]

Z9. Same button configuration. Same menus. Transferable custom setting menus. Less to think about when things are going fast (wildlife). Z8 has no GPS.

 

[Ivan Rothman]

For me a second body is a must. For insurance in case one camera fails. But also to be able to shoot with 2 different lenses without having to take the time to switch lenses.
When I got my first Z9 when if was first introduced iin December 2021, I was lucky enough to get a 2nd Z9 in January 2022. Same configurations, same controls, same batteries and same memory cards. So for me, having a pair of Z9s is the best solution.
But sometimes I want a 3rd body. To be able to be using 3 different lenses at the same time. Or to be taking video with one camera while using the other 2 for stills. At first I used a Z7ii for this but wasn't that happy with it. Now I have a Z8 as my third body and am quite happy with it. Layout and performance of the Z8 is close enough to the Z9 to make be very comfortable with it. Main memory card is also a CFExpress. It does use a different battery, but the EN-EL15 that it uses is quite small and easy to carry extra batteries for the Z8. And the charger for the EN-EL15 is small or I can charge the batteries directly in the camera.
And if I'm really limited in the amount and weight of equipment I can travel with on a particular trip, I will take one Z9 along with a Z8.

 

[O]

Is it just me, or has Tony gone total doppelgänger on John Malkovich?

He makes some sense about needing more practical features, ie: a screen you can see in the sun rather then 120 fps

As a blogging channel i guess he needs to make some daring comments to generate chatter or interest, and that's great.

Fundamental simplicity is the key, it worked for Apple.

Photography as we fundamentally know it is changing, newer generations are eating at different places, using different things, doing things differently, manufacturers listening and adapting to younger people’s needs is key, major change always brings either benefits or collateral damage, or outright damage, which lane your in is up to you.

The market to harvest is the 7.5 billion smart phone users, the big three camera companies can’t compete with the smart phone industry, with the exception of Sony that has a bridge.

The likes of DGI, Go Pro, brands and others similar are able to feed off that market smart phone culture.

Chines brand lenses at very very affordable prices is also growing in range and popularity, while not breathtaking optically, they will only get better, however its a product in many cases very acceptable for so many people.

Interesting times ahead

Only an opinion

 

[Darrellhar]

Thank you everyone for giving feedback. I've never had a backup camera before so I just need to figure out if its worth spending $3000 to have one. I have Gear Acquisition Syndrome like many of us I just do a lot of back and forth before I spend the money. I just need to get my butt moving otherwise this opportunity will be gone.

 

[joe43]

For me, yes, a backup body is needed. However, the specific backup needed will depend on what you are shooting and maybe where you are too.

I have a Z9, a D850 and a D500 and a cell phone. So I have three backups to my Z9. Or do I?

For heavy duty nature shooting, with Z mount and F mount lenses, I have a backup. But if I had only Z mount lenses, I do not have a backup. For me a backup to my Z9 would be another Z9, a Z8 or maybe a Z6iii. I would prefer another Z9 for battery swapping and battery charging. I could live with a Z8 backup if I had room for different batteries and chargers. I could go on, but you get the drift.

So it all depends.

 

[nhzen]

For me, yes, a backup body is needed. However, the specific backup needed will depend on what you are shooting and maybe where you are too.

I have a Z9, a D850 and a D500 and a cell phone. So I have three backups to my Z9. Or do I?

For heavy duty nature shooting, with Z mount and F mount lenses, I have a backup. But if I had only Z mount lenses, I do not have a backup. For me a backup to my Z9 would be another Z9, a Z8 or maybe a Z6iii. I would prefer another Z9 for battery swapping and battery charging. I could live with a Z8 backup if I had room for different batteries and chargers. I could go on, but you get the drift.

So it all depends.

Totally agreed that a D850 is not a backup to the Z9/8. The lenses are one thing, since Z lenses can’t go back to the DSLRs.

But equally important is the difference in shooting style, which came as a surprise to me. I used to think “a camera is a camera”, because I shot the DSLRs more or less like a film camera, with of course differences like checking histograms and pushing exposure and post-processing. I thought the Zs would be the same but quickly learned otherwise. The DSLRs (especially with the great sensor on the D850) have a place but are a different enough beast that for a Z body, for what one might be shooting with a Z body (eg action, wildlife), another Z as a true backup makes sense.

 

[RichF]

For me a second body is a must. For insurance in case one camera fails. But also to be able to shoot with 2 different lenses without having to take the time to switch lenses.
When I got my first Z9 when if was first introduced iin December 2021, I was lucky enough to get a 2nd Z9 in January 2022. Same configurations, same controls, same batteries and same memory cards. So for me, having a pair of Z9s is the best solution.
But sometimes I want a 3rd body. To be able to be using 3 different lenses at the same time. Or to be taking video with one camera while using the other 2 for stills. At first I used a Z7ii for this but wasn't that happy with it. Now I have a Z8 as my third body and am quite happy with it. Layout and performance of the Z8 is close enough to the Z9 to make be very comfortable with it. Main memory card is also a CFExpress. It does use a different battery, but the EN-EL15 that it uses is quite small and easy to carry extra batteries for the Z8. And the charger for the EN-EL15 is small or I can charge the batteries directly in the camera.
And if I'm really limited in the amount and weight of equipment I can travel with on a particular trip, I will take one Z9 along with a Z8.

agree a second body is a must. I have had a Canon 1Dx die unexpectedly. It took only a week or so to get if fixed, but there are weeks I would not like to be camera-less. Plus if travel somewhere, the trip is a bust.

Unless you feel a need for a 2nd Z 9, I would opted for a Z 8 has backup if you want something similar to the Z 9. Otherwise for lighter smaller and if you are willing to accept a smaller (lower resolution) file, a Z 6iii

 

[nhzen]

Thank you everyone for giving feedback. I've never had a backup camera before so I just need to figure out if its worth spending $3000 to have one. I have Gear Acquisition Syndrome like many of us I just do a lot of back and forth before I spend the money. I just need to get my butt moving otherwise this opportunity will be gone.

The back and forth is important, given that it’s a non-trivial discretionary purchase. And it’s a lot of fun . Plus a learning experience for everyone.

 

[Morado]

As a hobbyist, there is no need for a second body, but... either circumstances make you value the idea or you really like it once you have two bodies.

For me, the first time on safari made it clear that I "needed" two cameras. That made things so much easier in subsequent safaris.

Right now I only have one camera, but have a reserve fund for another one. Toyed with the idea of the Z8, but then concluded that for the money, I would rather get a second Z9. Then considered the Z6 iii, but also decided against it because I never loved the original Z's form factor. Form factor also rules out the Z50 ii.

If tomorrow Nikon were to surprise everyone with a Z90 with the same button layout as the Z9 (and a body akin to the Z8), it would be a mightily tempting proposition. For example for birds, extra shy wildlife, or places where there are restrictions on your movements, this hypothetical Z90 with the 400mm f4.5 and the Z9 with the 800mm PF would be a very tempting team. Or going farther, the Z90 with the 600pf + TC1.4 and the Z9 with the 800mm + TC. During DSLR times the D850/D500 were a great combo; exactly the same button layout, menus, and body shape (well, about 98% the same). You could go out with the 70-200 FL on the D500 and the D850 with 500 PF. Or you could do 80-400mm on the D850 and the 500PF on the D500. Or countless other variations.

Back to your concerns. Only you can determine whether you need a second body. What that second body might be will depend, putting aside budgetary considerations, your preferences about ergonomics, weight and even things such as using the same cards and or batteries.

 

[Darrellhar]

I totally agree with everything everyone has said. My original thought process was to wait until later this year and pick up Z8 but a friend of mine is willing to sell his Z9 + Kirk L bracket + 2 extra batteries to me for $3000. Not chump change but certainly a great deal and now cheaper than Z8 option. Plus all the other things that everyone mentioned like same batteries, easy set up (copy from mine), and dual CFexpress cards come into play. I just wouldn’t have a smaller body for those times I might want travel light. Not sure 1 LB difference is worth the worry (Z9 vs Z8).

 

[ricardo00]

I totally agree with everything everyone has said. My original thought process was to wait until later this year and pick up Z8 but a friend of mine is willing to sell his Z9 + Kirk L bracket + 2 extra batteries to me for $3000. Not chump change but certainly a great deal and now cheaper than Z8 option. Plus all the other things that everyone mentioned like same batteries, easy set up (copy from mine), and dual CFexpress cards come into play. I just wouldn’t have a smaller body for those times I might want travel light. Not sure 1 LB difference is worth the worry (Z9 vs Z8).

You are right, only 1 pound difference but, at least for me, feels a lot different. Another advantage for the Z9 is less apt to overheat. If the weight doesn't bother you, definitely seems like buying the Z9 from your friend is the way to go.
PS. Assuming you really want a second body.

 

[Darrellhar]

Need and want are two very different things. Of course I want one. Lol

 

[abc123brian]

I'm glad I searched for this before posting as there are a lot of good ideas in this thread. I currently own a Z9 and have opportunity to purchase a second one used from friend for about the same price as a new Z8. I really do like the idea of being able to set up both cameras the same way (easily) and really enjoy using the larger battery. I've never owned a capable backup camera and I'm trying to decide whether to pull the trigger on this or not. As a landscape, sports and sometimes wildlife shooter a second body would be more of a luxury than a requirement (I've done this long without one). I personally can't imagine what they could add to a Z9 ii that would make me want to upgrade (famous last words of all of us I'm sure) so having two version 1's would have them last that much longer. It is interesting to read what others use second cameras for and decisions they would make depending on what second was for. Again famous last words but I think I'm done purchasing lens, unless they release something that I can't think of, so having second body would not keep me from that purchase. I generally over think and analyze any new large purchases and this is no exception. For those that have a second (or third body) are there any other reasons you own it other than one of these? Backup in case first goes in for service, backup for big trip, second camera for second lens, smaller camera for different type of shooting.
Ultimately I'm trying to justify in my head the purchase of a camera that I know is going to drop in price over next year as rumors of version 2 get more often. I can already purchase it for less than I have seen other used copies (and this would already come with L bracket and couple extra batteries making it an even better deal). Just trying to justify in my head the purchase and what better way to do that than ask others that spend a ton on the same hobby.

I bought the Z8 as a backup/second body because the Z9 is bigger than I would like for the way I shoot. I’ve been considering a second Z8 so I have two identical bodies. I like the Z9 and use it often but having two identical bodies is very nice. If you are happy with the size of the Z9, having a second one would be a good option and I would go for it. If you find it too big/heavy consider a smaller lighter second body.

 

[jhallettbc]

After listening to Steve's video on the Z6ii and reading a lot about it, I have found a used one and that is going to be my back up camera for a safari in September. My Zf was to be my backup but the 6iii is a much better choice. When I go to Europe and Turkey in May, I will use both the 6iii and Zf each with a different lens.

 

[O]

I'm glad I searched for this before posting as there are a lot of good ideas in this thread. I currently own a Z9 and have opportunity to purchase a second one used from friend for about the same price as a new Z8. I really do like the idea of being able to set up both cameras the same way (easily) and really enjoy using the larger battery. I've never owned a capable backup camera and I'm trying to decide whether to pull the trigger on this or not. As a landscape, sports and sometimes wildlife shooter a second body would be more of a luxury than a requirement (I've done this long without one). I personally can't imagine what they could add to a Z9 ii that would make me want to upgrade (famous last words of all of us I'm sure) so having two version 1's would have them last that much longer. It is interesting to read what others use second cameras for and decisions they would make depending on what second was for. Again famous last words but I think I'm done purchasing lens, unless they release something that I can't think of, so having second body would not keep me from that purchase. I generally over think and analyze any new large purchases and this is no exception. For those that have a second (or third body) are there any other reasons you own it other than one of these? Backup in case first goes in for service, backup for big trip, second camera for second lens, smaller camera for different type of shooting.
Ultimately I'm trying to justify in my head the purchase of a camera that I know is going to drop in price over next year as rumors of version 2 get more often. I can already purchase it for less than I have seen other used copies (and this would already come with L bracket and couple extra batteries making it an even better deal). Just trying to justify in my head the purchase and what better way to do that than ask others that spend a ton on the same hobby.

It’s a tempting offer, but the market is full of used Z9 units and its growing.

I want to own less and use and do more

I unloaded my Z9 not long ago after 2 years, just in time as i got back almost what i paid for it.
The Z9 currently shows whiskers, the Ex-peed 7 processor is dribbling down into second level units like the Z6III Suspect the Z7III, already in the ZF.
I think the Z9 will have those newer features, 3 stops IBIS, 2 stops better light gathering for focusing.
The cost of the NewZ9II may be up there, so the question is do you really need this new tool.
I currently have a Z8 i use form time to time, i prefer the Z9 over the Z8, but i need the Z8 for travel or hiking or street photography.
If had the Z9 and wanted a second camera it would be something different, Z7III Z76III or Z8, this expands the tool capability, that said the only thing the Z8 offers is size and weight but brings along with it short battery life a pain, by the time you carry 4 spare batteries its as heavy as the Z9 just not as big so the Z8 offers really only size advantage, also I mean if you’re going to get mugged at night doing street photography the Z9 will be the target.
Mirror less cameras I believe will have a less resale value compared to flag ship DSLRS did ? we will see soon.
Date the camera marry the glass...........above all consolidate the tools as much as you can before GAS sets in.
Carrying 2 Z9 units is a consideration.
How often do you go out shooting.
What does your photo album show you what you mostly shoot.
I came from the D6, D5 D4s area, I really miss the D6 camera, I have had 2 years with the Z9, now running the Z8 for a little while till I see what the Z7 III brings to the table.
Short answer, I would consider the Z6III Z7III over anything else to go with the Z9, this expands the versatility of tool kit as well as offers back up, these cameras are half the weight and size.
The Z7III will be stunning for nearly everything especially for landscape work etc, travel, hiking, the image files are stunning if the Z7II is anything to go by, I use my D850 for seascapes or landscapes and nearly everything else as well, the Z8 is for anything that needs higher speeds or video.
If the Z7III is what I hope it is the Z8 is gone.
For any important work I rent the tools i need,
Again I want to own less and use and do more
Only an opinion

 

[O]

After listening to Steve's video on the Z6ii and reading a lot about it, I have found a used one and that is going to be my back up camera for a safari in September. My Zf was to be my backup but the 6iii is a much better choice. When I go to Europe and Turkey in May, I will use both the 6iii and Zf each with a different lens.

I like the sound of the combo, refreshing.

 

[Darrellhar]

I appreciate your opinion and you bring up good points. I’m pretty much done with buying glass unless something surprising gets released. I had a Z6 and never used it because it was too small it drove me crazy to have to go into menus for everything. I agree that prices for Z9’s have dropped and if new version was announced that would accelerate. I still see them used for more than what I would buy this one for so I’m still a little ahead of the curve. Right now Z8, Z9 or just one camera are only options I’m considering. Trying to weight all options so I appreciate your input.

 

[O]

I appreciate your opinion and you bring up good points. I’m pretty much done with buying glass unless something surprising gets released. I had a Z6 and never used it because it was too small it drove me crazy to have to go into menus for everything. I agree that prices for Z9’s have dropped and if new version was announced that would accelerate. I still see them used for more than what I would buy this one for so I’m still a little ahead of the curve. Right now Z8, Z9 or just one camera are only options I’m considering. Trying to weight all options so I appreciate your input.

All good, the Z8 Z9 combo sounds good and a lot of people have it.
If weight and size is not an issue then the Used Z9 sounds ideal.