Weird, but none of my preferred Canadian Nikon dealers are listing this lens for pre-order. Nikon Canada however has it listed and accepting orders. Did Nikon restrict orders to just their own site?
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not the case in US at least. i pre-ordered shortly after the announcement at my local storeWeird, but none of my preferred Canadian Nikon dealers are listing this lens for pre-order. Nikon Canada however has it listed and accepting orders. Did Nikon restrict orders to just their own site?
Well, that is why its weird. Any other time each of these sites had the pre-order option showing within minutes after the announcement. I found one store in Montreal that has it listed but no others. Gotta wonder if they werent caught be surprise and are now scrambling to get their web sites up to date.not the case in US at least. i pre-ordered shortly after the announcement at my local store
Another OM Systems option would be, to pair the OM-1 with the Olympus 100-400mm f/5-6.3 and the price would come down to just $3,300. You could add the 300mm f/4 for $2,800 and still be at just $6,100
None the less, I think Nikon wins the bang for buck battle since I suspect the 180-600 will probably be a better lens than the Olympus 100-400.
Here it is at my three preferred Canadian stores:Weird, but none of my preferred Canadian Nikon dealers are listing this lens for pre-order. Nikon Canada however has it listed and accepting orders. Did Nikon restrict orders to just their own site?
That is a brilliant list, but wouldn't you know after perusing all of them the one I liked the most was the Manfrotto Large Advanced Befree Messenger Bag only to find out that bag is discontinued :( Think Tank has similar but don't like the style so that's a pass. Maybe Think Tank's digital holster 150 might be the best as I like minimalist, if I want big I'll grab my LowePro Backpack which holds everything and the kitchen sinkIf you're going to be the owner of this sweet lens, and you are in need of a bag to fit it, here's a great article I found over on alphashooters that shows different sized bags for the Sony 200-600, which is of similar size to the 180-600: https://www.alphashooters.com/sony-200-600-bag-guide/
Over the last 6 months, I ended up buying all 3 of the Mindshift Backlight bags, so now I don't have to wonder anymoreThat is a brilliant list, but wouldn't you know after perusing all of them the one I liked the most was the Manfrotto Large Advanced Befree Messenger Bag only to find out that bag is discontinued :( Think Tank has similar but don't like the style so that's a pass. Maybe Think Tank's digital holster 150 might be the best as I like minimalist, if I want big I'll grab my LowePro Backpack which holds everything and the kitchen sink![]()
The Mindshift Backlight 18L has been in my wishlist on BH for several years now, just have not had a "need" for it, but it is smaller than my LowePro so maybe it would be something I would use more...Over the last 6 months, I ended up buying all 3 of the Mindshift Backlight bags, so now I don't have to wonder anymoreAt some point I'll probably pare down to two, but by then I'll really know which is best!
I also went ahead and pre-ordered the 180-600, because it's starting to make a lot of sense for my use case, and may accomplish in one lens what I'm currently doing with two.
Keep in mind Ricci is employed by Nikon. He’s based at the Nikon school in London and has access to everything Nikon UK can get a hold of. I‘m not sure if Nikon reps uk, Europe or elsewhere are employees or not, or what their policies may be. Ricci’s been around for a long time. He has the contacts. Good bloke.Same - I was really surprised when I saw those comparisons. Different countries seem to have different policies. For instance, here the Nikon rep has to be on-site and with the lens at all times, yet Jen Wagner in Australia had the lens for a week - I doubt Nikon was with him the entire time. So, it seems maybe each region sets their own policies or something.
Aha, they must have just added it. One of my favorite stores but they didnt have it on when I posted my comments above. Vistek and Henry's still mia![]()
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I know, and I agree he's a really good guy. It just seems odd that Nikon would allow any kind of sharpness tests with a prototype lens by anyone.Keep in mind Ricci is employed by Nikon. He’s based at the Nikon school in London and has access to everything Nikon UK can get a hold of. I‘m not sure if Nikon reps uk, Europe or elsewhere are employees or not, or what their policies may be. Ricci’s been around for a long time. He has the contacts. Good bloke.
It could be as simple as trusting that he wont share the actual files with anyone and what was shown is what nikon thinks is a good representation of the final product.I know, and I agree he's a really good guy. It just seems odd that Nikon would allow any kind of sharpness tests with a prototype lens by anyone.
I agree that the 100-400mm with the TC 1.4x probably is at least as good as the 180-600mm (we will find out) and gives more flexibility with less to carry around. In many ways I would prefer it (and would not have to shop for a new bag just when I thought I was done :( ) Unfortunately the combination is also nearly twice as expensive. So I am happy with the 180-600mm option and will give it a serious try.The 100-400 does well with the 1.4TC and that'll be the route I take to get from 400 to 560 (tho I have not tried this combo yet as I'm still waiting on the zTC)
Put another way.....If the 100-400 works as well with the 1.4 TC as everyone states that makes the 180-600 too big and heavy (more than a pound and 3.5" longer) for me to monkey around with it. Besides, I'm not a fan of the 1 ring lenses. Give up manual focus for exposure comp? I don't like that tradeoff. I realize they kept the cost down with no dedicated focus ring or LFn2 or Mem set buttons but they just dumbed it down too much for my tastes.
I have the 100-400. I was not happy with the 1.4TC but I might not have had a great copy. It didn't fit tight like my lens do. I ordered the 180-600. I will be happy to have both for different situations and will compare them. I may find someone close by with a 1.4TC and test a different copy.I agree that the 100-400mm with the TC 1.4x probably is at least as good as the 180-600mm (we will find out) and gives more flexibility with less to carry around. In many ways I would prefer it (and would not have to shop for a new bag just when I thought I was done :( ) Unfortunately the combination is also nearly twice as expensive. So I am happy with the 180-600mm option and will give it a serious try.
It sure sounds like a wonderful lens. I think everyone who gets it will be happy.I agree that the 100-400mm with the TC 1.4x probably is at least as good as the 180-600mm (we will find out) and gives more flexibility with less to carry around. In many ways I would prefer it (and would not have to shop for a new bag just when I thought I was done :( ) Unfortunately the combination is also nearly twice as expensive. So I am happy with the 180-600mm option and will give it a serious try.
Most folks I've heard from say thats a good combo. I don't have the 1.4TC yet so I'm hoping but we shall see...I have the 100-400. I was not happy with the 1.4TC but I might not have had a great copy. It didn't fit tight like my lens do. I ordered the 180-600. I will be happy to have both for different situations and will compare them. I may find someone close by with a 1.4TC and test a different copy.
I know it's not popular but I am getting good results with my 70-200 f/2.8 S and 2.0 TC, granted this is a stop gap tool until I find something better (I was not too happy with the AF speed of the 100-400 S with Z6), but this was also a decision based on Z6 files, maybe with Z7/Z8 resolution it's a different story, but I decided to stay with this combo for what I do (back in the 90's I had dreams of becoming the next Galen Rowell or John Shaw, but I couldn't make any money at landscape and wildlife so ended up becoming a professional wedding and portrait photographer which helped pay for my nature photography hobby). Back to the thread subject, the 180-600 intrigues me quite a bit because I am hoping it will compliment my 70-200 and TC combo enough that I won't need to consider the 100-400, but I may consider the 400 f/4.5 at some point if I feel the need for a faster lens...Yeah, I’ve been really impressed with the results I’ve gotten from the 100-400 + 1.4TC, which I wasn’t expecting at all. Great combo for walk-around and travel.
Ricci has a great video comparing the 70-200 Z 2.8 with the 2.0 TC (and 1.4) to other lens alternatives. In short, he agrees it’s a good combo.I know it's not popular but I am getting good results with my 70-200 f/2.8 S and 2.0 TC, granted this is a stop gap tool until I find something better (I was not too happy with the AF speed of the 100-400 S with Z6), but this was also a decision based on Z6 files, maybe with Z7/Z8 resolution it's a different story, but I decided to stay with this combo for what I do (back in the 90's I had dreams of becoming the next Galen Rowell or John Shaw, but I couldn't make any money at landscape and wildlife so ended up becoming a professional wedding and portrait photographer which helped pay for my nature photography hobby). Back to the thread subject, the 180-600 intrigues me quite a bit because I am hoping it will compliment my 70-200 and TC combo enough that I won't need to consider the 100-400, but I may consider the 400 f/4.5 at some point if I feel the need for a faster lens...
Another reason is, some of the reviewers are Nikon employed or closely affiliated; for the independent reviewers like Steve Perry, Nikon doesn't know what he will say after using the lens.Nikon plays favourites. Nothing new but not very nice.
f/5.6 to f/6.3 is only 1/3 of a stop.At f/6.3, I'm going to be relying on the VR working very well to compensate for the 1 stop difference from the f5.6 I'm used to on the 200-500mm. I wished of course it was f5.6 at the 600mm end.