Nikon Z8

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John Navitsky said:
anyone want to place bets if we'll see a fw update for the z9 as part of this announcement, and if we do, what the scope will be?
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I could see catching the Z9 up with /some/ of the rumored Z8 features: dedicated airplane AF mode, HEIF 10-bit, skin softening at some point later on.. I would think Nikon would emphasize new/new next week and not mix old with new.
 
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This is my dream wish list for Z9 FW

30FPS in HE
precapture in HE
AF refinements when tracking erratic subjects against busy BG,tracking improvements for smaller subjects or subjects far away
More critters added to the ML algorithm
More button customisation including programmable VR I.e. Set a minimum shutter speed when the VR should automatically turn on
Ability to set custom AF range limit
Edit: And a big red border on the EVF indicating I'm in DX mode. I just forget to turn off DX and end up not approaching the subjects closer thinking I'm filling the frame.
John Navitsky said:
anyone want to place bets if we'll see a fw update for the z9 as part of this announcement, and if we do, what the scope will be?
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thelordofthelight said:
This is my dream wish list for Z9 FW

30FPS in HE
precapture in HE
AF refinements when tracking erratic subjects against busy BG,tracking improvements for smaller subjects or subjects far away
More critters added to the ML algorithm
More button customisation including programmable VR I.e. Set a minimum shutter speed when the VR should automatically turn on
Ability to set custom AF range limit
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20 or 30 fps precapture in HE* or HE would be HUGE.... for sure worthy of a 4.0 designation. Id also like to see some "refinements" on the video side.
 
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TCzPhotos said:
I am a D500/500PF shooter with a Z6ii, 100-400 and 24-120 looking to replace the D500. I think the biggest gain for me will be a no blackout view finder. I was really hoping for something closer to the Z7 with a no blackout stacked sensor closer to the $3,500 price point. 10 to 15 fps would work for me and I doubt I will ever shoot 8k. I will likely experiment with the 120fps in both stills and video. Calling the Z8 a mini (anything) doesn't seem to fit. It is more camera than I want/need, but it is still the least expensive path for me to a no blackout setup. Most reviews I have read about the Z9 make me believe the 500PF should work fine on the Z8. I don't like the idea of using an adaptor and adding a TC on top of the adaptor spooks me, but until the 200-600 comes out or I can get an 800, this will likely be my setup. Waited long enough, my order is in at the local shop. Fingers crossed.
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I still have my D500 after waiting for it for a good long while before it was announced. I'm happy with my Z9 so I'm not in the market for the Z8. But, longer term, Thom Hogan is expecting five Z DX models (Z30, Z50 II, Z70, Z90, Zfc) within about 18 mos, but who's counting. The current DX lineup is three (Z30, Z50, Zfc). I'm very interested in what a D500 replacement, a Z DX Flagship so to speak, might look like. I don't really see any speculation on it. If it's on the order of a stacked 24-33MP DX sensor with Z9 evolved AF, I'd be interested. FujiFilm currently has the X-H2S, a 26MP APS-C stacked BSI sensor that sells for ~$2500. U.S. at B&H.

How Full Will the Nikon Z Lineup Get? | Thom Hogan

How many models of Z mirrorless cameras will Nikon produce?
www.zsystemuser.com
 
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thelordofthelight said:
This is my dream wish list for Z9 FW

30FPS in HE
precapture in HE
AF refinements when tracking erratic subjects against busy BG,tracking improvements for smaller subjects or subjects far away
More critters added to the ML algorithm
More button customisation including programmable VR I.e. Set a minimum shutter speed when the VR should automatically turn on
Ability to set custom AF range limit
Edit: And a big red border on the EVF indicating I'm in DX mode. I just forget to turn off DX and end up not approaching the subjects closer thinking I'm filling the frame.
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Great list but I’d modify one thing and add three more.

Regarding your edit, too similar to the video record indicator so maybe a different color or a different obvious way to indicate it.

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More options to enable/disable subject detection. Right now is more of a workaround. I’d like to be able to assign subject detection on/off to specific custom focus buttons. Ex) fn 1 Wider Area Large with Subject Detection, fn 2 wider Area Small Without subject detection.

Ability to deselect options in subject detection, like keep and and eye but disable torso

fix the issue where when focus is not active and the viewfinder is showing the subject found within the focus box, placing small box around subject eye, to change focus when activating focus to a closer distraction, like a branch. I know using a smaller focus point solves this, but when the camera clearly has identified the subject it should continue tracking what it already identified when activating focus.
 
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NorthernFocus said:
Anyone else notice that @Steve has been quiet for a week or so. Last time that happened he was under an NDA secretly testing Nikon gear just pre-release. :unsure:
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There's no telling what he has with him, but he has been in Costa Rica for a while. I got a response to a PM I sent him, but it took longer than it usually does for him to respond. I don't recall if he mentioned when he's returning.
 
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I've just been looking at the spec comparison between the Z8 and Z9 on NR: If that is, indeed, the spec. of the Z8 it seems like it's just an ungripped version of the Z9, which doesn't really make sense from a pricing perspective. How much is a grip? $400-500? They'd have to sell the Z8 for quite a lot less than that to drag people away from buying the Z9, I suspect.

Of course, there are people who don't like the size of the Z9, but the Z8 still seems like a large camera, so I'm not sure how much of a factor that will be.

I'm sure I'm missing something, and the specs are just rumors, of course, but it seems a little strange, on face value.
 
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if true, i think it requires an adjustment in how you think about it. yes, from a tech perspective it’s no big deal. but i think if you think of it as a high spec do-it-all d850 replacement it becomes a VALUE lead because it’s cheaper than a a9ii and gives you more. similarly with the r5 although atm the r5 is on sale
 
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John Navitsky said:
if true, i think it requires an adjustment in how you think about it. yes, from a tech perspective it’s no big deal. but i think if you think of it as a high spec do-it-all d850 replacement it becomes a VALUE lead because it’s cheaper than a a9ii and gives you more. similarly with the r5 although atm the r5 is on sale
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Isn't that what the Z9 is?
 
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Doomrider74 said:
I've just been looking at the spec comparison between the Z8 and Z9 on NR: If that is, indeed, the spec. of the Z8 it seems like it's just an ungripped version of the Z9, which doesn't really make sense from a pricing perspective. How much is a grip? $400-500? They'd have to sell the Z8 for quite a lot less than that to drag people away from buying the Z9, I suspect.

Of course, there are people who don't like the size of the Z9, but the Z8 still seems like a large camera, so I'm not sure how much of a factor that will be.

I'm sure I'm missing something, and the specs are just rumors, of course
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We simply do not know the price YET and all I know is it will not be $5,000 for a body.
 
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If it’s just a C/P of the Z9 just no grip, We don’t need any more reviews or testing. We all know what the Z9 can do. Unless its new bata firmware.
 
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thelordofthelight said:
This is my dream wish list for Z9 FW

30FPS in HE
precapture in HE
AF refinements when tracking erratic subjects against busy BG,tracking improvements for smaller subjects or subjects far away
More critters added to the ML algorithm
More button customisation including programmable VR I.e. Set a minimum shutter speed when the VR should automatically turn on
Ability to set custom AF range limit
Edit: And a big red border on the EVF indicating I'm in DX mode. I just forget to turn off DX and end up not approaching the subjects closer thinking I'm filling the frame.
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I understood most of your list but NOT -- "Ability to set custom AF range limit" -- are you looking for some kind of max and min range limit within which the AF hunts for subjects -- if you are then Absolutely NOT I hate this idea.
 
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Andy Miller Photo UK said:
I understood most of your list but NOT -- "Ability to set custom AF range limit" -- are you looking for some kind of max and min range limit within which the AF hunts for subjects -- if you are then Absolutely NOT I hate this idea.
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Yep that’s exactly what I meant. Again, when I know I am shooting an erratic flying bird that is approximately in a given range, I’d prefer to use it in order to avoid the camera locking on to the backgrounds or even the AF unnecessarily having to scan from mfd to infinity. Simply look within the set range but of course one can always revert to the default when not needed.

The other idea I was thinking of was let’s say there is an approaching subject and I got an AF lock and am sure the camera has the ability to measure at approx what camera to subject distance the initial AF lock was achieved (let’s say 10 meters). I should then be able to press a button to tell the camera not to look for anything>10 meters and instead scan under 10 meters.
 
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thelordofthelight said:
Yep that’s exactly what I meant. Again, when I know I am shooting an erratic flying bird that is approximately in a given range, I’d prefer to use it in order to avoid the camera locking on to the backgrounds or even the AF unnecessarily having to scan from mfd to infinity. Simply look within the set range but of course one can always revert to the default when not needed.

The other idea I was thinking of was let’s say there is an approaching subject and I got an AF lock and am sure the camera has the ability to measure at approx what camera to subject distance the initial AF lock was achieved (let’s say 10 meters). I should then be able to press a button to tell the camera not to look for anything>10 meters and instead scan under 10 meters.
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I would think a current distance +/- some user defined percentage would be great to keep it from jumping back to the background…but that’s assuming it knows the current distance…which could be calculated by the camera if the lens is reporting the right data to the body and iQ have no idea if it is.
 
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