Nikon Z9 - Firmware 5.0

[Ken Miracle]

From what I can tell the shooting modes are no longer linked but it appears that the banks are still linked. If I am in shooting bank A then I am in shooting bank A for both stills and video. I cannot be in shooting bank A for stills and shooting bank B for video.

Remember you now have to go to video when choosing the bank you want for video and depending on which of the banks you choose you then can make changes as you use it and when you exit that bank (go to another or leave video) those changes you made will be in the video bank.

 

[MartyD]

Remember you now have to go to video when choosing the bank you want for video and depending on which of the banks you choose you then can make changes as you use it and when you exit that bank (go to another or leave video) those changes you made will be in the video bank.

I don't have a problem changing the settings in the video banks, I just can't figure a way to be in Bank A for stills and Bank B for video.

 

[jpgrove]

I don't have a problem changing the settings in the video banks, I just can't figure a way to be in Bank A for stills and Bank B for video.

I have to admit I am pretty confused with the changes in V5 to the banks the feature I find most useful is the AF box thickness. I'll re watch the various Nikon PR videos on V5 and see what I can gather

 

[MartyD]

I'm confused too! I am wondering if the youtubers had a different V5 FW then what was officially released. The few I watched made it sound like the still and video banks could be independently selected, so 4 still banks and 4 video banks, but it appears like you just have 4 shooting banks. They unlinked the shooting mode but for the most part that wasn't a bid deal for me because used manual mode for both stills and video.

This from the Nikon USA web site adds to the confusion.

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[John Woodworth]

No kidding. Thankfully, much of this update is already written for the Z8, I just have to make a few adjustments to those sections and then I'm only left with the actual Z9 only stuff. I tell ya, a guy could go broke doing free updates...

I've wonder about this, Steve.

I, for one, am willing to pay for updates to your Z8/9 eBooks and I am sure others here are as well.

 

[Steve Meszaros]

Absolutely...same here ....the books are the best out there and the least expensive ....time to consider a price adjustment...bet the head of the house would agree

 

[John Navitsky]

In FW 5.0 we now have WiFi STA mode but I have not been able to get it working in SB on my iPhone. Before you ask, yes I did read the manual and I know both are on the same network, signal is great etc. etc. (I'm a long time IT guy). What I'm seeing is that the camera will only appear fleetingly as a selectable device in SnapBridge and that's on rare occasions. The camera never completes the connection process when tapped in the app. This is not by any means an urgent problem I'm just one of those people that gets crazy when I can't get something to work. Has anyone else seen this or discovered some trick or obscure setting? I've tried both the 2.4 and 5.0 GhZ bands, the camera joins the network and both phone and camera are visible in the router. Reinstalled SnapBridge etc. This is driving me nuts.

you may have to delete and recreate your camera entry in snapbridge.

when creating your network profile in the camera the last step is pairing. until it pairs your network profile in the camera isn’t really complete

 

[jpgrove]

I'm confused too! I am wondering if the youtubers had a different V5 FW then what was officially released. The few I watched made it sound like the still and video banks could be independently selected, so 4 still banks and 4 video banks, but it appears like you just have 4 shooting banks. They unlinked the shooting mode but for the most part that wasn't a bid deal for me because used manual mode for both stills and video.

This from the Nikon USA web site adds to the confusion.

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I think Nikon had planned to separate them out, but for whatever reason haven't, as you have suggested the regional PR videos are like based on previous or un restricted firmware. But it is clear that V5 doesn't work in the way that the USA and UK Nikon sites make out with regard to banks.

While confusing it doesn't matter for me ask use M for everything. Well have to wait and see how this plays out, some say its a bug and one report suggests that Nikon Canada have confirmed it, others say it works as suggested in the release notes, but not the PR videos.

 

[BarkingBeans Coffee]

For those of you not aware because it’s not obvious on the Nikon download page, things like the reference manual and auto capture guide have been updated so take a look if those interest you.

 

[fcotterill]

I'm confused too! I am wondering if the youtubers had a different V5 FW then what was officially released. The few I watched made it sound like the still and video banks could be independently selected, so 4 still banks and 4 video banks, but it appears like you just have 4 shooting banks. They unlinked the shooting mode but for the most part that wasn't a bid deal for me because used manual mode for both stills and video.

This from the Nikon USA web site adds to the confusion.

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There are now separate Photo and Video shooting banks - grand total of 8. As you said above, it's their selection that is still linked. So switching to Photo A will also switch to Video A.

My response is to setup these banks up as pairs for complementary roles eg Wildlife A for most subjects, and Action D for running mammals BIF etc. This pairing makes it very quick to switch between Video <> Stills.

As previously, the Z9 has separate iMenu's and Custom banks for stills and video.

 

[PhotonThief]

you may have to delete and recreate your camera entry in snapbridge.

when creating your network profile in the camera the last step is pairing. until it pairs your network profile in the camera isn’t really complete

Understood. I will try again today but to be clear I don't think this is a factor since I've never really successfully stored the camara as a connectable device. I have also completely removed and re-added SnapBridge. Thanks for the observation though. <edit> Everything works fine point to point and BT.

 

[Wink Jones]

Program Shooting Mode

Thank you.

 

[Slysweeny]

Done my Z9 update but noticed image size settings greyed out I shoot raw /manual anyone else have this ?

 

[jpgrove]

Done my Z9 update but noticed image size settings greyed out I shoot raw /manual anyone else have this ?

If you shoot RAW the Size Options is not used, the size options are available for JPEG

 

[Slysweeny]

If you shoot RAW the Size Options is not used, the size options are available for JPEG

Oh right thanks for quick reply

 

[Parfumeur]

No kidding. Thankfully, much of this update is already written for the Z8, I just have to make a few adjustments to those sections and then I'm only left with the actual Z9 only stuff. I tell ya, a guy could go broke doing free updates...

Don't forget to mention the change in shutter sound. Carefully left out of the changes section (and some others).

 

[Parfumeur]

the version probably has more to do with how nikon internally manages their software development than a strict indication of "how much" stuff is in it

I wonder, they must not speak to each other, or are not photographers. Witness the Z9-Zf [Disp] and [Playback] reversal !!! what is the rationale? what was the designer thinnking? Another kludge.

 

[Parfumeur]

Strangely the camera went to shooting mode P after performing the upgrade. Initially confused the hell out of me. Back to M and all is good.

A reflection of the users in the mind of Nikon's development team.

 

[Steve]

Don't forget to mention the change in shutter sound. Carefully left out of the changes section (and some others).

As far as I can tell there weren't any updates to the shutter sounds - same as 4.1

 

[Ken Miracle]

I don't have a problem changing the settings in the video banks, I just can't figure a way to be in Bank A for stills and Bank B for video.

I did notice that on page 31 of the addendum for fw 5 it says "When (Extended menu bank) is set to (ON) in the photo shooting menu or video recording menu separate shooting modes can be set for photo mode and video mode. But it does not go into anything else.

I do not do much video but my video banks have always had different settings than those in my photo banks that pertain only to video. And that is still the same. The only difference I saw was the ability to use a different shooting mode ie. Program for video while using manual for photo. So if I go down to my banks in video and choose bank A gives me different settings than if I am in photo bank A.

 

[Ken Miracle]

With my 800PF attached

I did notice that on page 31 of the addendum for fw 5 it says "When (Extended menu bank) is set to (ON) in the photo shooting menu or video recording menu separate shooting modes can be set for photo mode and video mode. and then the note about The shooting modes banks A through D are set to P right after the firmware is upgraded.

So I wonder if you had your extended menu banks set to on or off? No big deal just a puzzle.

 

[John Navitsky]

I wonder, they must not speak to each other, or are not photographers. Witness the Z9-Zf [Disp] and [Playback] reversal !!! what is the rationale? what was the designer thinnking? Another kludge.

certainly that may be the case. i find it very common for different product teams to be very siloed.

it might also be the case there was a change in the name and that code change simply hasn’t percolated to one of the bodies.

it’s also possible that it is some manifestation that nikon appears to have a thought about what each role a given model will fill and supporting that role is more important than constancy in their minds and for some reason they think one vs the other fits those roles better.

to that end, i suspect that when the expeed7 hits the z5, while the core af will be the same, i suspect the feature set will be different and the ui probably streamlined

 

[Parfumeur]

As far as I can tell there weren't any updates to the shutter sounds - same as 4.1

Difficult to tell what is going on as different users seem to get different results. Paul Van Allen and this week's Webinar on the Z8/Z9 settings touched on that sound change in v5.00. Mentioned in jest, that the cat's meow not yet done. Jest !?? Appears that some complained that the sound was the same for all speeds, so this major change addresses that problem.

 

[Ken Miracle]

For those of you not aware because it’s not obvious on the Nikon download page, things like the reference manual and auto capture guide have been updated so take a look if those interest you.

Are you referring to the Supplementary Firmware Update Manual ? The reference guide that I could see to download only had pages for FW 4.0 and 4.1?

 

[Parfumeur]

. . . They are going to run out of improvements eventually or hit hardware walls . . .

All they have to do is go out shooting with an OM-1 or M1X for future improvements on ergonomics, firmware settings, and controls! BUT don't touch the superlative NEF file! The file quality is worth the pain and the work arounds <g>.